Keeping the blogosphere posted on the goings on of the world of submarines since late 2004... and mocking and belittling general foolishness wherever it may be found. Idaho's first and foremost submarine blog. (If you don't like something on this blog, please E-mail me; don't call me at home.)
The narrator says: "Submarine forces - We are lethal, survivable and effective undersea warriors forever. This is our force, and today is our birthday!"
Since the admirals tried, but could not find a women submariner with an April 11th birthday, viewers are left to wonder whether the narrator is one of the first women submariners. My bet is yes, she is, and her narration was also outstanding.
SSGN sailors are submarine sailors so they need not wear such trivial little pins especially the yellow ones. They are however part time sailors so I suppose they have the best of both worlds.
"...nearly 50 former astronauts and scientists--including the ex-boss of the Johnson Space Center--claim the agency is on the wrong side of science and must change course or ruin the reputation of the world’s top space agency."
Sounds like someone's been doing their homework...and some haven't.
There was one young submariner that started singing "submarines once, submarines twice" song.....pity that he would be written up in present times, if he really sung it in uniform.
The narration was by an MC1(SW). If you are able to watch it to the end you can see the credits roll by. I was able to do it, even though I threw up a little bit in my mouth...hooyah!
Just curious as to what a YNSN should sound like? Everyone was a "non-qual" at sometime in their career, but sounds like to me our commenter has forgotten where they came from, and spent all their time on Shore Duty.
Since when was the whole "Hoo ya" bullshit incorporated into our little military subculture?
I went through dive school in the late 80s and it was in heavy rotation there by Navy and jarhead instructors. Got out in the early 90s and don't think I ever heard it on a boat.
Wow! Only 7 posts before we call out that a (Gasp!) Woman narrated the piece. And only 8 till we bash her! Stupid Women thinking they are equal to us. It must be a slick ploy by BIG NAVY to brainwash us! Why don’t you show your Mom or Wife what you write about women, I bet she would be so proud.
I don't think it was "throw up" in your mouth your trying to refer to Anonymous.... But hey in today's Navy!! I think the "narrator" MC1 did a great job and Kudos to the submarine force for having the "intestinal fortitude" to select her for the honor!
Nice try, 4-Stop...but I don't see anyone bashing women, with the possible exception of calling this one a "non-qual"...which turned out to be correct.
FY-13 O-6 (Line) are out, but I haven't seen ALNAV 028/12 posted yet here: http://www.public.navy.mil/BUPERS-NPC/REFERENCE/MESSAGES/ALNAVS/Pages/ALNAV2012.aspx
I agree with 4 stop that there is bashing of women, but should we take the word of "Anonymous" who clearly can't see that our "non qual" does have a qual as a "SW" after her MC1! First I thought you were a sour grape insider from your quote that "they didn't select her ...it's her job" because you didn't get the opportunity to be the narrator since your statement leads others to think that there are only female MC's from the team that made the video. Now with all your "Sea Lawyer" comments it is clear your background is with the Chair Force! Aim High Anonymous
"is some hope for there"?? Nice usage of the English language Chair Force! Obviously not smart enough to be either a bubblehead, skimmer or an Airedale. You cloud be Army hmmmm
"Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
"Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?"
Global warming is settled science. There is no legitimate disagreement among actual scientists. People with some sort of circumstantial knowledge, or scientists that are not climatologists or mathematicians, or physicists sometimes disagree. But actual climate scientists who are experts on the climate? Very very few disagree. In fact, the consensus among actual scientists has coalesced on "yes there is global warming" there is some disagreement on the edges about the severity and some disagreement about the effects, but virtually no disagreement on whether it happens.
Apparently, you don't have to be too smart to be an astronaut. It's not exactly news that skittle shirts are fucking stupid,
"If the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it; if not, let your peace return to you.
"Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words - go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet.
"Amen, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town."
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They came to the other side of the sea, to the territory of the Gerasenes.
When he got out of the boat, at once a man from the tombs who had an unclean spirit met him.
The man had been dwelling among the tombs, and no one could restrain him any longer, even with a chain.
In fact, he had frequently been bound with shackles and chains, but the chains had been pulled apart by him and the shackles smashed, and no one was strong enough to subdue him.
Night and day among the tombs and on the hillsides he was always crying out and bruising himself with stones.
Catching sight of Jesus from a distance, he ran up and prostrated himself before him, crying out in a loud voice, "What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me!"
(He had been saying to him, "Unclean spirit, come out of the man!")
He asked him, "What is your name?" He replied, "Legion is my name. There are many of us."
And he pleaded earnestly with him not to drive them away from that territory.
Now a large herd of swine was feeding there on the hillside.
And they pleaded with him, "Send us into the swine. Let us enter them."
And he let them, and the unclean spirits came out and entered the swine. The herd of about two thousand rushed down a steep bank into the sea, where they were drowned.
Look at the Bible/religious comments not as annoyances but as another opportunity to see how FAST you can scroll down to the next intelligent, well-written, thoughtful, insightful comment on the current state of affairs in submarines.
From what I have read Seawolf your comment falls right in there with "stupid is as stupid does"! As for the " if you don't wear a Dolphin" your a "non qual" mentality.... Sounds like a knuckledragger kid to me or wannabe!
"Whenever, therefore, a lie has built unto itself a throne, let it be assailed without pity and without regret, for under the domination of an inconvenient falsehood, no one can prosper.“
Anyone with a brain knows that your warfare qualified when you can put some letters after your rate and rank! So Anonymous who still believes that MC1is a non qual I'm going to start referring to you as the Scarecrow Anonymous! If you only had a f@&$ing brain!!!
TM1 shit fer brains, puhleeeeze. They give those SW pins away. So as I said before, "As far as most of us are concerned, that means she's STILL a non-qual."
I realize it hurts your feelings EM1, but she IS a qual. Your a Disgrace to the sub force! So you get the Scarecrow tag! I can by your quals that your an expert on skimmer pins.
John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
-If Jesus saves, he must have one hell of a bank account after 2,000 years!!!
Deuteronomy 21: 18-21: "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, 'This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."
Hey Joel, while the retard rodeo is in session above? On the Tullibee in 85, you had to crawl down a scuttle to the Chief's Quarters in the bow compartment lower level. At eye level for anybody but a midget was a brass engraved plate that read "The Stupid Shall Be Punished" behind the ladder. There was no blue shirt that did not understand that term on the boat, and back then, you did not want an INVITE to the quarters if you were a blue shirt. If a Chief told you to dog the scuttle, you were in for a major @ss chewing. No shyt, there was no way of stopping yourself from pausing and reading that sign. Remember crawling down a scuttle one handed with 3 cups of coffee in your off hand? LOL. God bless the Submarine Force, please let them weather the latest storm.
"And Hagar bore Abraham a son; and Abraham called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abraham." (Genesis 16:1-16)
-If Jesus saves, he must have one hell of a bank account after 2,000 years!!!
Hagar, ha'-gär (Hebrew)–flight; to flee one's country; fugitive; wanderer; stranger.
Sarai's handmaid, the mother of Ishmael by Abraham (Gen. 16:1-16).
Metaphysical meaning: The natural soul. It is a stranger to the awakened spiritual phase of the soul, in that its thoughts and emotions are sensual and are likely to be selfish and unholy, thus producing fear and uncertainty (wanderer). The sensual must give way to the spiritual; it cannot stand in the presence of the Christ truth, but flees (flight).
“Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, so also it is now. Howbeit what saith the scripture? Cast out the handmaid and her son: for the son of the handmaid shall not inherit with the son of the freewoman. Wherefore, brethren, we are not children of a handmaid, but of the freewoman.” (Gal. 4:28-31).
Joel: With all due respect and no knowledge whatsoever regarding your life priorities or the amount of time required to keep a blog such as yours on topic and relevant, I'd suggest, based on many of the preceding posts, that you reevaluate your commitment to keeping this blog relevant and on topic for those of us in the submarine community with little or no use for partisan ideologues or religious fundamentalists.
Hagar, ha'-gär (Hebrew)–flight; to flee one's country; fugitive; wanderer; stranger.
Sarai's handmaid, the mother of Ishmael by Abraham (Gen. 16:1-16).
Sorry, but YGBSM. I have as much to do with Judaism as I do being a kneel on the deck pray for my @SS loving freak like you. I'm glad you are bored enuf to sit around and prosthelytize, now get your POS @SS to another blog where you will be appreciated. JAT? New one? Just Another Troll? Oh, and my real family name 300 years ago was Hecker, so go spin something else up in your boredom. So, what's the real story on the Columbia???
If you stop feeding the fire, it will go out. Stop showing them (the skimmer pukes, the bible thumpers, etc) any attention, and they will get bored and fuck about elsewhere.
This is exactly what submarines are supposed to teach you; "don't react to stupidity or we will aggravate you to death".
Happy Birthday submarines! Welcome to the 21st century. You have outlived your usefulness, and it shows.
Y'just gotta love the truth:
ReplyDelete"Astronauts Bitch Slap NASA Over Global Warming Stance"
I may have paraphrased the title just a bit...but you get the picture.
Since when was the whole "Hoo ya" bullshit incorporated into our little military subculture?
ReplyDelete^^^^^^
ReplyDeleteI do believe MCPON West is the culprit of that little annoyance.
Just because you're an astronaut doesn't mean you know shit about climate study.
ReplyDeleteBut go ahead and hijack another thread with your political agenda.
^^^If 'truth' is an agenda, then I'm certainly guilty of that, but true science has no political agenda.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
What are sup-marines and sup-mariners? Listen to the video.
ReplyDeleteThe narrator says: "Submarine forces - We are lethal, survivable and effective undersea warriors forever. This is our force, and today is our birthday!"
ReplyDeleteSince the admirals tried, but could not find a women submariner with an April 11th birthday, viewers are left to wonder whether the narrator is one of the first women submariners. My bet is yes, she is, and her narration was also outstanding.
To each his own, I suppose. The female narrator sounded like a YNSN to me. And a non-qual at that, in any case.
ReplyDeleteJust more PC nonsense.
The admirals' both sporting pocket rockets (the coveted Poseidon/Polaris patrol pin) was at least as impressive.
Question: do SSGN 'guys' wear pocket rockets as well?
SSGN sailors are submarine sailors so they need not wear such trivial little pins especially the yellow ones. They are however part time sailors so I suppose they have the best of both worlds.
DeleteSSN Sonarman
Regarding NASA's 'global warming' expertise:
ReplyDelete"...nearly 50 former astronauts and scientists--including the ex-boss of the Johnson Space Center--claim the agency is on the wrong side of science and must change course or ruin the reputation of the world’s top space agency."
Sounds like someone's been doing their homework...and some haven't.
There was one young submariner that started singing "submarines once, submarines twice" song.....pity that he would be written up in present times, if he really sung it in uniform.
ReplyDeleteThe narration was by an MC1(SW). If you are able to watch it to the end you can see the credits roll by. I was able to do it, even though I threw up a little bit in my mouth...hooyah!
ReplyDeleteJust curious as to what a YNSN should sound like? Everyone was a "non-qual" at sometime in their career, but sounds like to me our commenter has forgotten where they came from, and spent all their time on Shore Duty.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the prompt, skimmer boy:
ReplyDelete"...here's to the skimmers, FUCK YOU!"
Having completed the submarine song, we now return you to our regular, scheduled programming.
"Pocket Rockets" is that all you think about? Try thinking about women or getting underway sometime. You just need a heavy dose of Saltpeter!
ReplyDeleteSince when was the whole "Hoo ya" bullshit incorporated into our little military subculture?
ReplyDeleteI went through dive school in the late 80s and it was in heavy rotation there by Navy and jarhead instructors. Got out in the early 90s and don't think I ever heard it on a boat.
Wow! Only 7 posts before we call out that a (Gasp!) Woman narrated the piece. And only 8 till we bash her! Stupid Women thinking they are equal to us. It must be a slick ploy by BIG NAVY to brainwash us! Why don’t you show your Mom or Wife what you write about women, I bet she would be so proud.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it was "throw up" in your mouth your trying to refer to Anonymous.... But hey in today's Navy!! I think the "narrator" MC1 did a great job and Kudos to the submarine force for having the "intestinal fortitude" to select her for the honor!
ReplyDeleteOOH RAH!
LAMPS 1 Senso (ret)
Nice try, 4-Stop...but I don't see anyone bashing women, with the possible exception of calling this one a "non-qual"...which turned out to be correct.
ReplyDeleteSo sad if that hurts your feeeewings. So sad.
Speaking of your mom...how's her anus? Has it fully healed yet?
ReplyDelete"I think the "narrator" MC1 did a great job and Kudos to the submarine force for having the "intestinal fortitude" to select her for the honor!"
ReplyDeleteThey didn't select her...it's her job.
FY-13 O-6 (Line) are out, but I haven't seen ALNAV 028/12 posted yet here: http://www.public.navy.mil/BUPERS-NPC/REFERENCE/MESSAGES/ALNAVS/Pages/ALNAV2012.aspx
ReplyDeleteI agree with 4 stop that there is bashing of women, but should we take the word of "Anonymous" who clearly can't see that our "non qual" does have a qual as a "SW" after her MC1! First I thought you were a sour grape insider from your quote that "they didn't select her ...it's her job" because you didn't get the opportunity to be the narrator since your statement leads others to think that there are only female MC's from the team that made the video. Now with all your "Sea Lawyer" comments it is clear your background is with the Chair Force! Aim High Anonymous
ReplyDeleteWhy, oh why, are skimmers so stupid?
ReplyDeleteWith the hope that there is some hope for there, here are some inspiring words for all in skimmer land to take to heart.
any idea why no 1 star list?
ReplyDelete"is some hope for there"?? Nice usage of the English language Chair Force! Obviously not smart enough to be either a bubblehead, skimmer or an Airedale. You cloud be Army hmmmm
ReplyDeleteMatthew 7:1-3
ReplyDelete"Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
"Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?"
John 3:17
"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him."
-- The One
Global warming is settled science. There is no legitimate disagreement among actual scientists. People with some sort of circumstantial knowledge, or scientists that are not climatologists or mathematicians, or physicists sometimes disagree. But actual climate scientists who are experts on the climate? Very very few disagree. In fact, the consensus among actual scientists has coalesced on "yes there is global warming" there is some disagreement on the edges about the severity and some disagreement about the effects, but virtually no disagreement on whether it happens.
ReplyDeleteApparently, you don't have to be too smart to be an astronaut. It's not exactly news that skittle shirts are fucking stupid,
If Jesus saves, as every Christian knows, he must have one hell of a bank account after 2,000 years.
ReplyDeleteLeave LAMPS MK 1 alone...this is the closest he ever got to a submarine!
ReplyDelete. . . does have a qual as a "SW" after her MC1 . . .
ReplyDeleteAs far as most of us are concerned, that means she's STILL a non-qual.
Sinatra 19:53
ReplyDeleteOo-Shoo-Be-Doo-Be
Stop bible thumping on this blog.
ReplyDeleteI don’t care if you are a Holy Roller but go and preach somewhere else.
^^^^^
ReplyDeleteAmen! I mean, yeah!
"As you enter a house, wish it peace.
ReplyDelete"If the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it; if not, let your peace return to you.
"Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words - go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet.
"Amen, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town."
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They came to the other side of the sea, to the territory of the Gerasenes.
When he got out of the boat, at once a man from the tombs who had an unclean spirit met him.
The man had been dwelling among the tombs, and no one could restrain him any longer, even with a chain.
In fact, he had frequently been bound with shackles and chains, but the chains had been pulled apart by him and the shackles smashed, and no one was strong enough to subdue him.
Night and day among the tombs and on the hillsides he was always crying out and bruising himself with stones.
Catching sight of Jesus from a distance, he ran up and prostrated himself before him, crying out in a loud voice, "What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me!"
(He had been saying to him, "Unclean spirit, come out of the man!")
He asked him, "What is your name?" He replied, "Legion is my name. There are many of us."
And he pleaded earnestly with him not to drive them away from that territory.
Now a large herd of swine was feeding there on the hillside.
And they pleaded with him, "Send us into the swine. Let us enter them."
And he let them, and the unclean spirits came out and entered the swine. The herd of about two thousand rushed down a steep bank into the sea, where they were drowned.
"Do not give what is holy to dogs, or throw your pearls before swine..."
ReplyDeleteSeriously?.....
ReplyDeleteSeriously = Verily:
ReplyDeleteMatthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
So...yes, seriously.
Verily; If Jesus saves, as every Christian knows, he must have one hell of a bank account after 2,000 years.
ReplyDeleteTHAT IS SOME SERIOUS (verily) CASH-OLA!!!
No body wants to hear your religious stances or views. Go do it somewhere else where people will respond to you in kind.
ReplyDeleteLook at the Bible/religious comments not as annoyances but as another opportunity to see how FAST you can scroll down to the next intelligent, well-written, thoughtful, insightful comment on the current state of affairs in submarines.
ReplyDelete"4-Stop" and "Lamps" are one in the same. This dude is damaged goods, and he is out to settle the score.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I have read Seawolf your comment falls right in there with "stupid is as stupid does"! As for the " if you don't wear a Dolphin" your a "non qual" mentality.... Sounds like a knuckledragger kid to me or wannabe!
ReplyDelete"Whenever, therefore, a lie has built unto itself a throne, let it be assailed without pity and without regret, for under the domination of an inconvenient falsehood, no one can prosper.“
ReplyDelete“He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of great understanding, for belief in one false principle is the beginning of all unwisdom.”
ReplyDeleteHey 4evr Pierwolf go pull some parts the JC is broke again.
ReplyDeleteAnyone with a brain knows that your warfare qualified when you can put some letters after your rate and rank! So Anonymous who still believes that MC1is a non qual I'm going to start referring to you as the Scarecrow Anonymous! If you only had a f@&$ing brain!!!
ReplyDeleteStart using some name you cowardly lion
So which is it? Scarecrow or lion TM1 Tinman.
DeleteTM1 shit fer brains, puhleeeeze. They give those SW pins away. So as I said before, "As far as most of us are concerned, that means she's STILL a non-qual."
ReplyDeleteEM1(SS/DV)
I realize it hurts your feelings EM1, but she IS a qual. Your a Disgrace to the sub force! So you get the Scarecrow tag! I can by your quals that your an expert on skimmer pins.
ReplyDeleteWhat a shitsandwhich you are.
TM1 (SS) Tinman heartless bastard
Lemme guess, you're a 15 year TM1 and you have dolphin tats somewhere on your body? Translation: LOSER
ReplyDeletehansomessss
ReplyDeleteStop casting stones at each other:
ReplyDeleteJohn 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
-If Jesus saves, he must have one hell of a bank account after 2,000 years!!!
Deuteronomy 21: 18-21:
ReplyDelete"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, 'This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of the city shall stone him
to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."
Hey Joel, while the retard rodeo is in session above?
ReplyDeleteOn the Tullibee in 85, you had to crawl down a scuttle to the Chief's Quarters in the bow compartment lower level. At eye level for anybody but a midget was a brass engraved plate that read "The Stupid Shall Be Punished" behind the ladder.
There was no blue shirt that did not understand that term on the boat, and back then, you did not want an INVITE to the quarters if you were a blue shirt. If a Chief told you to dog the scuttle, you were in for a major @ss chewing.
No shyt, there was no way of stopping yourself from pausing and reading that sign.
Remember crawling down a scuttle one handed with 3 cups of coffee in your off hand? LOL.
God bless the Submarine Force, please let them weather the latest storm.
hagar
"And Hagar bore Abraham a son; and Abraham called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abraham." (Genesis 16:1-16)
ReplyDelete-If Jesus saves, he must have one hell of a bank account after 2,000 years!!!
Hagar, ha'-gär (Hebrew)–flight; to flee one's country; fugitive; wanderer; stranger.
ReplyDeleteSarai's handmaid, the mother of Ishmael by Abraham (Gen. 16:1-16).
Metaphysical meaning: The natural soul. It is a stranger to the awakened spiritual phase of the soul, in that its thoughts and emotions are sensual and are likely to be selfish and unholy, thus producing fear and uncertainty (wanderer). The sensual must give way to the spiritual; it cannot stand in the presence of the Christ truth, but flees (flight).
“Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, so also it is now. Howbeit what saith the scripture? Cast out the handmaid and her son: for the son of the handmaid shall not inherit with the son of the freewoman. Wherefore, brethren, we are not children of a handmaid, but of the freewoman.” (Gal. 4:28-31).
Also see: http://www.behindthename.com/name/hagar
Joel: With all due respect and no knowledge whatsoever regarding your life priorities or the amount of time required to keep a blog such as yours on topic and relevant, I'd suggest, based on many of the preceding posts, that you reevaluate your commitment to keeping this blog relevant and on topic for those of us in the submarine community with little or no use for partisan ideologues or religious fundamentalists.
ReplyDeleteYou get what you pay for, Daniel F Boone...and you can't please all of the people, all of the time.
ReplyDeleteBTW...what is your definition of a "religious fundamentalist"? Someone who's actually studied the Bible...before they've formed an opinion about it?
Hagar, ha'-gär (Hebrew)–flight; to flee one's country; fugitive; wanderer; stranger.
ReplyDeleteSarai's handmaid, the mother of Ishmael by Abraham (Gen. 16:1-16).
Sorry, but YGBSM. I have as much to do with Judaism as I do being a kneel on the deck pray for my @SS loving freak like you. I'm glad you are bored enuf to sit around and prosthelytize, now get your POS @SS to another blog where you will be appreciated. JAT? New one? Just Another Troll?
Oh, and my real family name 300 years ago was Hecker, so go spin something else up in your boredom.
So, what's the real story on the Columbia???
hagar
YCMTSU:
ReplyDelete"The name Hecker was not found. Names that sound similar to HECKER:
HOOKER English"
If you stop feeding the fire, it will go out. Stop showing them (the skimmer pukes, the bible thumpers, etc) any attention, and they will get bored and fuck about elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly what submarines are supposed to teach you; "don't react to stupidity or we will aggravate you to death".
Happy Birthday submarines! Welcome to the 21st century. You have outlived your usefulness, and it shows.
Prediction: if the U.S.A. makes it to the 22nd century, it will be because of its nuclear submarines.
ReplyDeleteThat is a moronic prediction that can never be proven or disproven (unless we get rid of all nuclear submarines and still exist)
ReplyDelete^^^Careful, skimmer butt boy...your brainlessness is showing.
ReplyDeleteHagar,
ReplyDelete771 violated OP-8 time limit.
NNPI "Beadwindow."
ReplyDeleteTo top it off...Hagar is not a nuke, and is retired. Waste of comms.