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Friday, May 09, 2008

A Story Begging For Follow-up

Last month, I stumbled across a story about a Submariner from USS Tennessee (SSBN 734) who supposedly shoplifted from a store in Nashville while in town on a COMREL visit:
Only someone at home around water would swim the fast-moving Cumberland River, especially at night.
That's why helicopters and rescue boats scoured the stretch of river near Opry Mills mall, looking not only to catch but also to save a man suspected of shoplifting who dove into the fast-moving water Tuesday night.
Police say the suspect is a sailor who swam downstream and nodded a friendly hello to barge operators.
The crew member of the submarine USS Tennessee, stationed in Kings Bay, Ga., was visiting the Nashville area as part of a goodwill community program. His name has not been released.
"His naval training is, we believe, responsible for him being able to negotiate the Cumberland River and getting out of the water," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said.
Police believe the man stole some boxes of ammunition and a T-shirt from the Bass Pro Shop in Opry Mills and left the items in the trunk of a car in the parking lot before he was chased by a security guard.
The car was not reported stolen in Nashville, Aaron said, but was reported as such to the owner, the U.S. Navy. It was registered to the government and assigned to five sailors who were in town for Nashville Navy Week, said Lt. Taylor Clark from Submarine Group 10.
A group of USS Tennessee sailors visited veterans at the VA Medical Center in Murfreesboro and, according to Navy Week's schedule, were supposed to meet with children at the Boys & Girls Club later in the afternoon.
[Emphasis mine] I figured I'd sit on the story until I saw some confirmation, but never did, and forgot about it until today; the story only inferred that he was a Submariner because he was loading the loot into their car, but didn't say he'd been captured. Does anyone know if this really was a Sailor demonstrating his great Boot Camp swimming skills, or did the Submariner's car get stolen by the thief?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was the COB.

5/09/2008 5:40 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard it was the COB as well. He was on the USS Maine Blue before reporting to the Tenn. STS type.
I won't name names but some of you will figure out who he is. He was/is I am so full of integrity guys. You know the type.

5/09/2008 5:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

We had a senior State Trooper shoplift from K-Mart. He swaped ball point in their boxes

This guy was four months away from retirement

Management sent him to the shrink. The guy had just gone through a messy divorce. and the shoplifting was a cry for help.

He was allowed to retire with 20 years.

There has to be more to the story. With HIPPA we will probably never know the full story

5/09/2008 9:36 AM

Blogger Vigilis said...

A Story Begging For Follow-up?

Sorry, this does not compare to your June 07, 2005 "Sub Officer Shot in Guam".

Was the Ltjg who admitted shooting himself with a personal handgun he kept onboard a USNA grad? answer: We will never know!

5/09/2008 12:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officer SubScol '68. Kind of a squirrelly kid (ensign), not much good at anything, but persistent. Was suddenly removed from the graduation list. Nailed by State Troopers shoplifting hi fi gear from Vality.

5/09/2008 12:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what ever happened to the pervert chief who messed with the little girl on the plane from Hawaii? Hope he got slam'd...

5/09/2008 12:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

STSCS(SS) Eric Burch...'nuff said.

5/09/2008 12:54 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

To answer the question about the JO in Guam - I have it from reliable sources that yes he is a USNA grad, last name Cornue I believe. The CPO on the plane from Hawaii I believe is in jail I'm pretty sure. And don't forget about the CMC from Bangor and the kiddie stuff too!

5/09/2008 1:46 PM

Blogger Cameron said...

I've been to that mall! I was in that Bass Pro Shop!

Didn't think to steal anything though.

5/09/2008 3:09 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you ever tried swimming with a couple of boxes of ammo? I bet he was
Sh#$$%n his pants when he got caught. lmao.

5/09/2008 4:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can, unfortunately, confirm that the LTJG in Guam was an academy grad, because I was his DH.

5/10/2008 12:32 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got woken up and called into the boat in the middle of the night because of that idiot JO. We went to FPCON delta as a result because the dude blamed it on a local who "popped out from behind the T-shed with a rifle" - on Polaris Point? C'mon. Logically if there's a gunman loose, we want to call EVERYONE from the boat in and jam pack the gate at 2am.

5/11/2008 2:58 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This explains the "Don't Lie! Don't Steal! Don't Cheat! Stand a professional watch!" posters going around USTAFISH.

5/11/2008 12:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay...from all these postings, I have observed...nothing!

"I anonymously report that he was a guy who shall remain anonymous! And I hereby stake my anonymous reputation on the fact that he really is the anonymous person mentioned in a report that was published anonymously. Yes, I can state with 100% incredularity that the perpetrator was, in fact, the anonymous person earlier mentioned (anonymously)."

I heard he was the Lower Level Head Chief from USS Enterprise. How credible am I???


5/12/2008 9:56 PM

Anonymous toeachhisown said...

To the STSC: That is the beauty of commenting anonymously! In the blogasphere its up to the reader to determine if the comments are up to par.

5/13/2008 2:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our COB mentioned this at GMT on thursday for us. He said it was the COB of the Tennessee. The story was he stole the stuff. Got chased by security jumped into the river and then called his guys to come pick him up. They picked him up and he said they had to get their stories straight about the incident and one of the 2nd classes asked him why he was wet. He said not to worry about it and they had to get a story about how the car was stolen. When the junior guys said how about we just tell the truth. He turned himself into his skipper once he got back to Georgia and said he had been stealing all his life.

5/18/2008 8:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get your story straight. He has not been steeling all of his life. He has some issues that are now being delt with...stealing was his way of coping with the stress. I'm not going to go into the whole story but this kind of bantering and guessing does nothing but hurt the person in question, AND HIS FAMILY. He is getting the help he needs. He is paying the price for what he did. There is no need to drag him through the mud.

5/19/2008 5:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

We (TEN GOLD) were out and the clip that you were quoting came in an email. Wow put it this way every 1MC on halfway night started with "Attention Bass Pro Shoppers!" Everyone was cracking up from Seaman to CO! STSCS Burch was just field daying Bass Pro Shops!

5/23/2008 1:23 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Burch is in the middle.

5/26/2008 10:35 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is what being in the Navy is all about then that's really sad. I find it interesting how you are willing to start rumors when you don't know all of the facts. It's probably a good thing. I sure you would think nothing of mentioning the name of the children and wife.

6/02/2008 1:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

he was my CoB and i went underway with him hes a very firm but honest man he made a stupid mistake and now he has to live with it andto all you who said he was a thief that dont even know him just shut up. he was forced to retire and thats that

7/11/2008 10:46 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was my COB right before I left, which was about a year earlier. Good riddance. COB Snyder was so, SO much better. Even COB Hernandez was better.

7/04/2009 10:51 AM

Anonymous STSC said...

Yes, it was Eric Burch.

I served with him back in the day (before he put on anchors). He preached integrity publicly but didn't practice it in reality. This is going back for years.

When he received a report of a gross integrity violation w/in his division he buried it and instead threatened the person reporting it that he'd ruin him & get him masted (It would have happened too - he had the CO's ear).

That's the way he operated. Intimidation, fear, & abuse of power on a regular basis. Luckily for us he was more concerned with his own personal success so he wasn't on the deckplate as most LPO's. His entire division was thrilled when he xferred & we told him so to his face.

He was an ace at impressing officers & VIPs. He was also wicked intelligent & extremely knowledgeable, though he had the personality of a doorknob - he just could not relate to people. He was an extremely competent and confident Sonar Sup / COW.

His wife & kids names? The kids are innocent, but the wife (Lisa iirc) is also culpable. She had been SEWING his pockets shut for awhile because she knew about his little secret passion for lifting things that didn't belong to him. She could have got him help LONG before any of this happened and besmirched the reputation of the Navy, his boat, CPO's, & COB's.

He was due to put on two stars shortly until this all unfolded. Instead of busting him at Mast he was forced to retire as a SCPO. Should have busted him (he still could have retired) in my opinion.

Call it a psych problem if you will, but where I come from when you take what doesn't belong to you then calling that person a THIEF is completely appropriate.

LIAR also goes well with his name. He lied to everyone about the car, coerced his own crew members to lie to the police, and lied to his CO & NCIS when things started to unravel. He only came clean when confronted with irrefutable evidence & there was no longer any chance of denial.

The true irony is if he had just returned the goods the store wasn't even going to press charges - he would have gotten off & nobody would have been the wiser.

Instead he chose to flee. That's not the actions of an honest man.

8/26/2009 6:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this happened years ago now, but I thought I should comment. To say that the COB was a completely bad guy isn't correct. He was only 1/2 bad to me. Personally he could have been a better representative of the enlisted group to the CO, and maybe took time to examine things more effectively. He was fair to me until I had personal issues, then he showed no compassion and instead of helping find a solution. No one ever asked him for anything outside of professional advice and help, but he seemed to not care.

1/31/2011 12:45 PM

Blogger Tony Aviles said...

Fuck Eric Burch.
Tony Aviles

8/07/2012 12:53 AM


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