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Friday, June 27, 2008

And The Submarine Capital Of The Navy Is...

A little over two weeks ago, the outgoing Base CO at Naval Station Kitsap had a throw-away line in his Change of Command speech where he said:
"The new submarine capital of the Navy is Kitsap," Tanaka told about 200 invited guests during a change-of-command ceremony that was chased into the Bangor theater by threatening skies. "There are more submarine crews in Kitsap than in any other place."
Since the boomers and SSGNs stationed there have two crews, he's actually correct -- even though Subase New London has 2 more full-sized submarines assigned (plus NR-1). He also noted that Bangor has all three types of submarines there (SSBNs, SSGN, and SSNs), whereas only SSNs are stationed in Groton. He could have also pointed out that the three newest SSNs in the Bremerton area could wipe out any group of ships (up to and including a complete Strike Group, or a complete submarine squadron) in the world without breaking a sweat. Things move slowly up Groton way, but they've finally responded to this "heresy":
After the staff in Groton heard about Tanaka's remarks, Ginda said “there were no emergency meetings to figure out how we were going to counter this blasphemy, if you will” because Tanaka has a “tough road ahead of him” if he wants to continue to call Kitsap the new capital.
”We have the natural synergy of the base and Electric Boat, right down the river, where the latest class of subs are built,” Ginda said. “We have sub school, where officers and enlisted cut their teeth on a submarine profession that started here, as the first submarine base, and continues on as the submarine capital of the world.”
Captain Ginda is actually right in this "controversy". Whiile Kitsap might have more capable and varied submarines, the fact remains that the vast majority of Submariners pass through Groton at some point in their careers -- everyone goes through training there before getting to their first boat except the enlisted nukes. Plus, the Nautilus is there, as well as the company that built USS Holland (SS 1). In my mind, as long as the Submarine School and Submarine Force Museum remain in Groton, it will be the "Submarine Capital".

The Puget Sound is a lot prettier than the Long Island Sound, though...

10 Comments:

Anonymous Garth Plouzek said...

What is it with pissing contests that seem to never end? I mean really, my base can beat up your base. Or, my sub can beat up your sub... big deal we're all on the same team guys....

6/28/2008 4:45 PM

 
Blogger Papaya Mom said...

True - ROTTEN Groton may still be the capital but I'd be so much happier if things like Sub School, etc. would be in Kitsap. Alas, the tiny overstuffed town with more cement than trees shall continue it's reign - it's all they will really have "over" Kitsap, a base people actually want to live at.

6/28/2008 5:43 PM

 
Blogger Bubblehead said...

Garth,
We do it because we're guys, and we know that if we win an argument, it proves our penis is bigger than the other guy's. Plus, it's lots of fun.

6/28/2008 8:53 PM

 
Blogger SonarMan said...

Garth, obviously you've lost too many "pissing contests".

So, my comment can beat up your comment. Nnnyyaaahhh!!!

6/29/2008 7:09 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go easy on him. The poor guy needed something to hang his hat on... The title "Kitsap: The child molester capital of the Navy" seemed perhaps a bit too dubious.

6/29/2008 8:54 AM

 
Blogger King said...

Having lived at both bases for some period of time, I feel safe saying that both suck tremendous amounts of ass. Groton is... well, this sleepy northeastern town with nothing there but a sub base, it's only saving grace being that it's sort of close to more interesting things, and Kitsap being this redneck suburban hell that's sort of close to Seattle. Ugh, I hated both of those places. Luckily, I was able to live in Seattle for the last year of my JO tour, which was much improved experience even with the horrendous commute.

6/29/2008 2:59 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too believe that they both suck proverbial ass. Groton has to deal with hateful unappreciative civilians (for the most part) and Bangor has the 9 months of mist to deal with. Blahhh!

6/29/2008 10:36 PM

 
Blogger Sandy Salt said...

We should petition to move the submarine capital to somewhere warm and sunny with pretty young women that like guys who go 5 knots with their hair on fire. Any ideas? P-CAN?

7/01/2008 10:29 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I vote for Subic Bay, RP!

7/01/2008 6:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's going to be pretty difficult to convince Brisbane to become the US Submarine Capital...

7/11/2008 12:11 PM

 

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