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Friday, May 22, 2009

Kooky Local Simpleton Confused By Science, Facts

Kooky Local Simpleton Bryan Fischer, who last month made up the "fact" that the U.S. currently has 15 aircraft carriers (we actually have 11 since USS Kitty Hawk got decommed in January, and haven't had 15 since 1993), yesterday weighed in on the cause of the AIDS epidemic. Here's some of what he said (emphasis mine):
A prominent molecular biologist at Cal-Berkeley has argued for years, persuasively in my mind, that the HIV virus is not in fact the cause of AIDS. It is his theory that AIDS is a result of a combination of sexually transmitted infections and intense drug use among homosexuals which work together to gradually weaken a homosexual’s immune system. (Homosexuals frequently use drugs to heighten and prolong their sexual experiences, particularly relying on “poppers,” consisting of amyl nitrates.) In his view, HIV is a “harmless passenger virus,” meaning that even if a cure for it were found, it would not reduce the incidence of AIDS. Magic Johnson may illustrate this. He was famously diagnosed with the HIV virus 18 years ago, but is in the pink of health today...
Note that this unnamed "prominent molecular biologist" (a German, no big surprise) and Fischer aren't alone in their beliefs; other "AIDS Denialists" include the Foo Fighters and former South African President Mbeki. Other than the obvious scientific evidence, KLS Fischer somehow decided that he was "persuasively" convinced despite the fact that AIDS is spread mostly heterosexually in Africa, where people are unlikely to use "poppers", it would seem. However, since Fischer has had problems with science concepts before, I'm not surprised he's come out on the side of this particular cause. (Maybe Magic is healthy because he takes his drugs?) Normally he would make fun of a philosophy where many adherents have died as a result of their foolish beliefs. When it comes to science, however, he just can't help being wrong. What a kook.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm very proud off you fore posting this story. Ive ben a longtime believer in the transparancy of the privet business sector and of goverment intervenshun to help these victums against there companys. I'm also the big hero who has snitched on these fools who thing they can get away with passing off kooky local ideas like this. I usually post these brillyant comments while behind the wheel of my 18 wheeler but dont tell no one cuze i dont want to get arrested for being transparrent behind the wheel. Please dont remove my posts.

5/22/2009 11:40 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

uhm..... hmmmmm. good point.... I guess. Spelling...not so much

5/22/2009 11:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, if we counted LHD's & LHA's as aircraft carriers (which by the standards of nearly every other navy, they are) we'd have about 21 in all.

But this guy obviously wasn't thinking about that.

5/22/2009 11:57 AM

Blogger Mindy said...

This was the subject of Law & Order, SVU on Wednesday night also...

5/22/2009 12:40 PM

Blogger Vigilis said...

We are living in an era in which the scientific method has been marginalized by many scientists of dubious intellectual integrity for financial gain.

They have succumbed to blindly searching only for facts supportive of popular, foregone conclusions. In both the pharmaceutical and climate arenas, to mention two, these sell-outs are protected by fine print supplied by another profession actually paid to lie (i.e. "my client is not guilty").

As a net result, much of the inattentive public is convinced drug side effects are either rare or mild and sequestering 1% of ambient CO2 is necessary and sufficient to save humanity from icemelt, rather than forecasted water shortages. Our leaders in D.C. would rather not discuss H2O while they are investing in companies like GE. Have we noticed what a bargain GE has been lately?

From the minimal diligence Mr. Fischer has applied to form his bizarre HIV opinion, it seems safe to guess his reasoning is on a par with the majority of U.S. voters, potential jury members and educators.

God help us all!

5/22/2009 2:29 PM

Blogger phw said...

Is the moon full today?

5/22/2009 2:54 PM

Anonymous SJV said...

Was his journal pier reviewed?

5/22/2009 3:12 PM

Anonymous Peerless review said...

Yes...I believe it was Pier 10 that conducted the review, which consisted of a float test. It failed.

5/22/2009 3:25 PM

Blogger Srvd_SSN_CO said...

You just can't fix stupid.

5/22/2009 5:09 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Srvd_SSN_CO

Stupid can be fixed, sometimes it is even self inflicted, but it's deadly...

To wit: the guy who tried to play Russian Roulette with a semi-auto!


5/22/2009 5:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poppers increase your heart rate and stimulate your body. That's all they do. You can fuck on a popper for a few minutes longer but that's about it. It doesn't matter if you're fucking Cindy Crawford or the lunch lady who served you lunch in high school. You'll have a heightened orgasm, but any Dr. will tell you not to mess with that crap. Eventually it will kill you.

This whole thread is a waste. The top thread has is from Mikey Mulligan. Joel, kill it. Kill it now.

5/22/2009 7:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mulligan, God Damn you!!
Get off this board! There's no excuse for your horse shit here or anywhere else. I'll just bet you're quite the authority on snorting a popper before you bend over to take it hard and deep. So Fuck off and rot in the hot pits of hell Mulligan. Please, just shut the fuck up, you bombastic simpleton!! How many more times must we tell you to fuck off?

5/22/2009 7:17 PM

Anonymous SJV said...

Looked up the UCB guy. Peter Duesberg. Reputable. Indeed he does publish papers in peer reviewed journals. Smart guy. Right? Wrong? I don't know. Seems kinda hard to believe, but he's got data to back him up. He's also not a kook or a simpleton. Surprises the heck out of me. s

5/22/2009 7:26 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought I was the only one who nailed the lunch lady.

5/22/2009 8:21 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Dammit!

Don't you talk about the lunch lady like that. After all, she was my first.

5/22/2009 9:12 PM

Blogger Chap said...

Duesberg got a lot of press about fifteen years ago for his "HIV doesn't cause AIDS" crusade. He got one of the Bob Gucciones all excited about it. Funny that this old canard is dragged out again--I guess we'll be seeing another round of Troofer nonsense come 2018.

But the anti-retrovirals seem to work pretty well, so phooey on them.

5/23/2009 7:10 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have this scary dream where Mulligan was driving an 18 wheeler down the highway in his straitjacket... And then I read the first post. Eeiry

5/25/2009 5:39 AM


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