NWS Charleston Base CO Arrested
The Commanding Officer of Naval Weapons Station Charleston, home of Nuke School and NPTU Charleston, has been arrested for soliciting an undercover policewoman posing as a prostitute. Excerpts from a local newspaper article:
Capt. Glen Melvin Little, 55, of Goose Creek, has been temporarily reassigned to the office of the commander, Navy Region Southeast, in Jacksonville, Fla., said Scott Bassett, public affairs officer at the Weapons Station.It looks like even the oldest LDOs can be caught believing the old urban myth that police have to admit they're law enforcement personnel when asked when they're undercover.
According to a North Charleston police report, Little was arrested about 9:30 a.m. Tuesday after having approached an undercover female police officer who was posing as a prostitute in the Charleston Farms area on Remount Road...
... The officer then asked Little if he wanted "business," and he said he did want "business" and asked her several times if she was a police officer.
Little offered to pay $20 for an oral sex act and invited the officer into his vehicle. The officer told Little it would be better if he were to pick her up in the rear of the building, where other officers moved in and took Little into custody, the report said.
Although CAPT Miller's bio has been scrubbed from the NWS Charleston website, they couldn't scrub the Google cached version (which could get updated to the blank page at any time), where we find that he is a Submariner from his enlisted days, serving on USS Birmingham (SSN 695) and USS Phoenix (SSN 702). He later commanded the drydock USS Arco (ARMD 5), after which he served as the Submarine and Nuclear LDO Detailer, so he's familiar to many Submariners. Hopefully he'll be able to retire quietly and not have this unfortunate incident be all that he's remembered for in the Navy.
79 Comments:
The Capt seems to be a stand up guy. He's also lectured at KB too in recent years. It's too bad he wasn't stationed here in the Pacific N.W. We could have easily have gotten him laid with a minimal amount of effort or trouble. Hopefully, he'll be able to enjoy his retirement years and forget this horseshit he inadvertently got himself into.
One of the best features about having a DIVO, DH or even an XO who's looking to get his dick wet is that if you get them laid and keep them out of trouble, you're guaranteed an EP on your next eval.
I too wish him well.
A Louisiana A-Ganger
1/29/2010 2:20 AM
20 bucks for a blowjob? I've been fuckin' up...
1/29/2010 3:29 AM
"20 bucks for a blowjob? I've been fuckin' up..."
He paid $20, didn't get the blow job, and lost his career.
Not a good transaction.
1/29/2010 6:20 AM
"Hopefully he'll be able to retire quietly and not have this unfortunate incident be all that he's remembered for in the Navy."
After this thread is over, I doubt it! Game on!
He must of been married, which brings us to the root cause; why do women think they have the right to stop giving head after they get married?
1/29/2010 7:23 AM
Probably picked up the bad habit of Tuesday 9:30AM blowjobs from his days commanding the the ARCO....
1/29/2010 7:57 AM
Another black eye for the LDO community. 0930 on a Tuesday looking for a blowjob? That's just wrong.
1/29/2010 8:28 AM
the stupid has been punished...
1/29/2010 8:48 AM
So Chompers got chomped.
What's interesting is that every time he went on the detailer road show he would chew us out and talk about our behavior and how we made the community look bad. Yep he would give his " you fxxxing guys speech."
Since this also is covered under the trafficking in humans rules...
He should get jacked up vice off...
We shall see how this plays out.
1/29/2010 9:08 AM
There's something in the water down in Carolina: Governor Sandford, Lt. Gov. Bauer, Joe Wilson, etc.
1/29/2010 9:16 AM
They must have some good lucking undercover cops there. Captain Little didn't get the memo that hummers for cash is an AFTER working hours activity.
Could have been worse - it could have been one of his Sailors he way paying for favors.
1/29/2010 9:24 AM
An officer and a genital.
heh
Rackburn
1/29/2010 10:08 AM
Was he in his NWU's? Is this considered a quick stop, or an extended one?
1/29/2010 10:36 AM
What did he say to the XO on his way out?
1/29/2010 10:50 AM
Charleston must be having a large problem with this to have vice out at 9:30 am on a Tuesday.
This happens when you let you Johnson lead your actions. It doesn’t’ matter what the rank, rate, pay grade or position is. You can do it once, you can do it twice but you’re going to get snapped up eventually. People just don’t do a risk analysis on these things.
He’s high profile so it would be reported on. Here in San Diego, we had a letter to the editor from CO Naval Station about their reports on the vice busts down in the Midway District. The comment was that they had 14 arrests and they only identified the four or five who were in the military. The CO wanted to know why they didn’t identify the Target employee, ect.
That Damn Good Looking Aganger From Iowa
1/29/2010 11:35 AM
DGLAGfI- The Target employee et al were likely locals.
I remember Orlando PD occasionally putting officers on the OBT. They were far to pretty to be real streetwalkers, but still caught people.
-3383
1/29/2010 11:57 AM
ART. 133. CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN
Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.
Hammer his dick flat.
1/29/2010 12:00 PM
He would have been ok if he still had any football eligibility left.
1/29/2010 12:21 PM
Wow. Where was the intrusive leadership? Why didn't COMNAVREG SOUTHWEST ensure that all his COs know that you shouldn't go out during normal working hours looking for "business"? I'd like to see his Region Commander's notebook to see if he has the formal counseling with the Captain acknowledging this. Where was the peer mentorship? Were the NPTU and NNPTC CO's not providing the necessary support to prevent this? How am I going to plan for the corrective training resulting from this? I'm sure there'll be a message next week direcing compliance with a new "Department
Of Navy Training Bulletin Encompassing Anti-Navy Apprehension
for Sexual Services Happening
Among Trainers."
Was he in uniform? Did the NWU hide any "stains" as designed?
For the Louisiana A-Ganger, I'll talk to you Monday morning about your career "ass-pirations."
1/29/2010 12:43 PM
Now he can retire in Reno.
1/29/2010 2:25 PM
Solicitation 101:
"All the good looking hookers are cops".
1/29/2010 2:35 PM
SJV said...
Now he can retire in Reno.
1/29/2010 2:25 PM
Or maybe he should just visit the Wild Horse Canyon Saloon 5 miles outside Reno where that kind of thing is legal.
1/29/2010 2:37 PM
for those of you who never knew this guy, you missed out on an experience... for him to get caught and go down in flames like this is nothing short of karma... he earned this by treating so many people so bad during his career... finally, those of us who know him, got to see him get his just reward. Goodnight Bucky!
1/29/2010 2:59 PM
This made me giggle. Oopsies!
1/29/2010 5:00 PM
@ ELT_2JV....DUH!!! ; ) Kinda my point.
Although it seems like this guy must have had other problems also.
1/29/2010 6:06 PM
Is this a "The Stupid Shall be Punished" event or what?
0930!!! I was a horny bastard back in the days, but holly crap! I never left work to go take care of business.
As a "Company Man" now (O-4), it just really ticks me off thinking about the standards we try to hold the men to, and one of us goes off an pulls a stunt like this. The Navy will just let him retire right now, with full pay/benefits of an O-6. What should happen? Court Marshal his ass, bust him down to a recruit, and kick his butt out! That won't happen though..too much paper work, too hard....
1/29/2010 6:14 PM
Hey, at least he wasn't fraternizing with his sailors - or their wives like another recent submarine O6 who was retired as an O5.
Bottom line, if you can't keep it in your pants until you retire, at least keep it outside the lifelines.
See -
http://www.militarycorruption.com/bawden.htm
1/29/2010 6:31 PM
Would this have been an issue 30+ years ago? I mean the Navy is sooo wrapped up in tradition, but it dropped on of its most important for stress relief, hookers.
1/29/2010 8:05 PM
"Or maybe he should just visit the Wild Horse Canyon Saloon 5 miles outside Reno where that kind of thing is legal."
Not that I am trying to defend this guy...but what happens if a single O-6 decides to LEGALLY engage in this kind of activity, like in NV? Hammer him for conduct unbecoming? What would the Navy do then? Just curious...since we are about to ignore Article 125 for homosexuality. I love how we pick and chose the rules we apply in this country these days.
And...while this looks bad...it still pales in comparison to one crazy Navy Captain and top Academy grad astronaut that wore diapers half way across this country to whack an AF O-3. And some in the Navy are embarrased by NWUs...
1/29/2010 9:23 PM
How many folks has this guy booted out the Navy for doing the same thing or for less....
1/29/2010 11:04 PM
Hey, it said right in the POD:
0930-1000 - PT
You work out your way...
And since he was staying in the car for the transaction, he should be OK wearing the NWU.
1/30/2010 6:36 AM
Not that I am trying to defend this guy...but what happens if a single O-6 decides to LEGALLY engage in this kind of activity, like in NV?
Well then, he wouldn't have been ARRESTED for it then, now, would he?
1/30/2010 7:37 AM
"Well then, he wouldn't have been ARRESTED for it then, now, would he?"
I know that...I just wanted to know what the top brass would have done about an O-6 getting a hummer legally? Would they can him for conduct unbecoming / general article...or simply let it go away because it is too much work in today's Navy to deal with problem children (unless they get arrested / kill someone / break the ship)?
Actually, I hate the fact that the Navy loves to avoid problems at all costs if possible, and I bet you would never hear of an O-6 getting a hummer legally even if it makes the rest of the officer community look bad. Just saying...
1/30/2010 7:58 AM
Captain Little enlisted in 1972, advancing to Senior Chief. He received his LDO commission in Sept. 1985. His first commissioned Officer assignment was on USS CARL VINSON (CVN-70).
Pity his family, folks, and wise up - one moment of weakness and Capt. Little's example clearly demonstrates who the next poor sap could be.
1/30/2010 8:46 AM
Remember the former CinC (AKA 'Slick Willie') who got away with soliciting the act many times?
Rank will always have its privileges.
Sheila the lawyer
1/30/2010 9:03 AM
A sailor visiting a prostitue - now there's a novelty, LOL. Those two items have been associated with each other since wind first met sail. They say it's the oldest profession; the oldest customer was probably a sailor.
1/30/2010 11:03 AM
One moment of weakness? Please, we're not children, it's highly unlikely it's an isolated incident. I applaud your concern for the family - they'll be just fine, financially anyway, repairing his marriage is his business.
1/30/2010 11:07 AM
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1/30/2010 4:22 PM
Soliciting the services of a prostitute is a violation of the UCMJ these days. Doesn't matter if it's legal in the state/country or not. They changed it in 2006 I think. Look it up.
1/31/2010 9:45 AM
"Soliciting the services of a prostitute is a violation of the UCMJ these days. Doesn't matter if it's legal in the state/country or not. They changed it in 2006 I think. Look it up."
Well, I guess the boats aren't pulling into Thailand anymore. Welcome to the largest daycare in the world...US Navy.
1/31/2010 12:11 PM
" asked her several times if she was a police officer."
I would think he would already know that this sort of question only works for a Zulu 5 Oscar.
1/31/2010 12:44 PM
RE: "Soliciting the services of a prostitute is a..."
I tried to look it up but the best I could find was:
"882. ART. 82. SOLICITATION
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who solicits or advises another or others to desert in violation of section 885 of this title (article 85) or mutiny in violation of section 894 of this title (article 94) shall, if the offense solicited or advised is attempted or committed, be punished with the punishment provided for the commission of the offense, but, if the offense solicited or advised is not committed or attempted, he shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(b) Any person subject to this chapter who solicits or advises another or others to commit an act or misbehavior before the enemy in violation of section 899 of this title (article 99) or sedition in violation of section 894 of this title (article 94) shall, if the offense solicited or advised is committed, be punished with the punishment provided for the commission of the offense, but, if the offense solicited or advised is not committed, he shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."
None of which seems to apply to prostitution. If you have a better reference - please provide it.
An old chief from the dark ages
1/31/2010 2:11 PM
"An old chief from the dark ages" try looking at article 134-38:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/134138.htm
1/31/2010 2:48 PM
Well, I guess the boats aren't pulling into Thailand anymore.
Now that would be just plain wrong: Pattaya Beach was one of the most rockin liberty ports I had the pleasure of visiting. And that is coming from a veteran of many an excursion across shit-river bridge. Ah, Subic Bay, memories, memories.
1/31/2010 3:25 PM
Mark
"Please, we're not children, it's highly unlikely it's an isolated incident."
We certainly know you don't know whether it was an isolated incident, or not. As you say, we are not children and can all be thankful you are not in a position to judge.
1/31/2010 3:53 PM
What I mean is that would be wrong should that happen :-)
1/31/2010 4:36 PM
Has it occurred to anyone that this guy's judgment may be a bit faulty? A skipper this stupid is too stupid to be a skipper.
1/31/2010 4:36 PM
It's a human failure, and I haven't ripped him for it. I'm just not being naive. It doesn't really matter whether it was an isolated incident anyway, it's just highly unlikely that it was.
1/31/2010 5:22 PM
Captain Little is from the old school of thought in which he believed he was untouchable.
He actually circled around the strip mall's parking lot three times? Can you say, INTENT?? The property no-doubt had CC cams along with the local police cruisers as well. Yeah they can tape your ass too.
So wud he do an hour or two after morning quarters?...Go take a ride at 0930 looking to get sucked? Is that really what happened?
A man of his years and experience, I'duh thunk he'd be a bit more observant.
What a screwy situation
MT1(SS) WidgetHead
1/31/2010 5:29 PM
One thing is certain he should have been smart enough to save the WestPac behavior for WestPac.
1/31/2010 5:47 PM
WidgetHead
"Captain Little is from the old school of thought in which he believed he was untouchable."
You know, by today's standards he could have been right in your assumption if he had only been a USNA grad instead of a mustanger!
1/31/2010 5:54 PM
RE: '"An old chief from the dark ages" try looking at article 134-38:'
It looks like what changed was the Manual For Courts-Martial which added additional items that could punished under the ubiquitous Article 134.
No wonder I could not find it under UCMJ!
Sighhh...
Old chief from the dark ages
1/31/2010 7:36 PM
Hey old chief from the dark ages, were you a WestPac sailor? You sound like one to me.
1/31/2010 7:55 PM
By the way I ask that question in a complimentary fashion. I rode pig boats out of Pearl Harbor.
1/31/2010 8:45 PM
Actually, the charge will probably be brought under UCMJ Article 120 as recently revised - http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/art120new.htm Plus (probably and properly) Article 133.
One laments that there is no article prohibiting the stunningly stupid, but as the sign in my desk said when I had command ... and as this blog proudly proclaims these many years later ... stupid will get punished.
And getting fired as CO is not punishment, though many treat it as such. No one has an equity interest in or right to command. Ditto a military career. Both carry privilege extended by the nation in exchange for faithful service of proper standard. One should not require judicial or non-judicial proceedings to judge that this guy really screwed the pooch while ... wait for it ... trying to screw the pooch.
2/01/2010 3:45 AM
This guy's reputation as described in posts above shows the soundness of a second adage also posted in my desk years ago: Time wounds all heels.
2/01/2010 4:16 AM
Feel bad for his wife. When he was my CO on ARCO (ARDM 5), I never knew he was married. I pictured him as a Russian Mail Order bride kind of guy.
2/01/2010 4:34 AM
To anon (1/31 at 5:54) who said:
You know, by today's standards he could have been right in your assumption if he had only been a USNA grad instead of a mustanger!
You're probably the same person who brings this up in multiple threads. You have really got to get over the USNA thing. Yes, I wear the ring, and I haven't never heard of anyone who has been given preferential treatment because they were a grad. Yes, there may be some personal relationships that started there, but these same sort of personal relationships could be formed by being roomates or shipmates at any step of a career.
Please get over yourself.
2/01/2010 8:10 AM
RE: "Hey old chief from the dark ages, were you a WestPac sailor?"
Yup. Saturdays, Sundays and Nights out of San Diego.
Old chief from the dark ages - post Nuc, pre-PC - dark vice stone age (-;
2/01/2010 8:48 AM
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2/01/2010 12:06 PM
To anon (2/01/2010 at 8:10) who said:
"Yes, I wear the ring, and I haven't never heard of anyone who has been given preferential treatment because they were a grad."
Who says preference is only lavished on grads? Latest example:
http://www.neptunuslex.com/2010/01/29/navy-football/
Since you wera the ring, we suspect your use of the double negative "haven't never heard" (quoted above) was quite intentional and may be interpreted as your having heard of preferential treatment.
There is no reason for you to take personally valid criticisms of the publicly-funded USNA.
Looking forward to a fuller measure of your educational preparation in forums like this.
We both want a stronger Naval Academy, do we not?
2/01/2010 12:19 PM
OK Jackass, you know what I meant, it was a typo. I could make fun of your "wera" (is that one of Jeff Foxworthy's redneck words?) but I am adult enough to know what you meant. You know your argument is weak when that is the best you can do.
I don't have any insights into what prompted the Superintendent to make that decision having only read the news also. I agree it doesn't smell right, but 'classmate loyalty' between people thirty or so years apart. Give me a break.
2/01/2010 8:26 PM
To Chompers:
Now YOU get the fuck off your cellphone!
2/01/2010 9:50 PM
Anyone who wears a class ring next to their wedding ring is a dork.
2/02/2010 7:03 AM
OK Jackass, you know what I meant, it was a typo. I could make fun of your "wera" (is that one of Jeff Foxworthy's redneck words?) but I am adult enough to know what you meant. You know your argument is weak when that is the best you can do.
I don't have any insights into what prompted the Superintendent to make that decision having only read the news also. I agree it doesn't smell right, but 'classmate loyalty' between people thirty or so years apart. Give me a break.
You sound awfully sensitive about this issue. From what I've seen, the rumour is true. It may be as you say "loyalty to classmate", but I tend to believe that the loyalty is more deap seated than that. There's not a damn thing wrong with folks of a common background ie: same college, same hometown, etc. forming a bond, but when those bonds negatively impact "outsiders", that's when the problem sets in. You can deny it to hell and back, but I've seen some really great officers who would have been a significant player in the Navy leave because they felt they couldn't get an even break, and that was due to the fact that they were 1. NROTC or 2. Mustang. They felt the USNA grads got the better deal. Again, this may just be perception, but perception is reality to the individual, and how many really good folks can you lose before you have to acknowledge there is something to look at?
2/02/2010 8:40 AM
Anon
"Yes, I wear the ring"
Your writin' don't pass muster for submarine naval officers, much less academy grads unless you wuz an athlete or sumthin'.. Don't believe you was that neither.
Heck, we don't even know your true gender, but your flaming immaturity betrays your youth. Are you really a little girl making a lot of anonymous comments for fun?
2/02/2010 12:48 PM
I agree that perception may be the reality for the indivudal. There are two ways to approach a perception. You see both approaches here. One is to treat is as if their perception is reality (e.g. not acknowledging that a person may have gotten out over an incorrect perception). The other is to say their view is not true and fight against it.
My point is that I have really only seen one blatant instance of USNA loyalty and that person was dealt very harshly by his USNA graduate superiority (had to make a public apology, ended up being selected for O-6 but chosing to retire instead). I've just never heard it brought up in any of the many ranking or selection boards I have witnessed or been a part of. I haven't always agreed with the ranking/selection board decisions and sometimes thought the reasoning was flawed. Commissioning source has never entered in the argument.
I have great respect for all the commissioning sources. Each brings their own strengths and weakness to the mix. Having is single commissioning source is surely not the right answer, so don't read that into what I am saying. My sole point is that those people with the perceptions of grads looking out for grads need to change their outlook. I think the statics will bear this out.
2/02/2010 1:29 PM
I guess all those nasty-grams from capt little about not driving greater than 20mph down old tom rd weren't because he likes to run there in the morning. He was trying to teach all the sailors on his base a valuable lesson. If you are going too fast it is real hard to solicit a blowie from a hooker. Now that's experience.
2/02/2010 2:21 PM
elt1,
Exactly what command could you have been in with Capt. Little?
We are not children, your prattle makes little sense.
Wear ring.
2/02/2010 4:15 PM
I knew Glenn well. We were commissioned at about the same time and he was my detailer when I was an 05.
Glenn Little was the the quintessential LDO. I guess this fgoes to show how vulnerable and frail us humans really are.
Glenn - God bless, shipmate.
Tom Desrosier
2/02/2010 6:27 PM
My sole point is that those people with the perceptions of grads looking out for grads need to change their outlook. I think the statics will bear this out.
Or, those who give the appearance of perpetuating the perception need to be aware of how their actions affect others. It's not just a one-sided solution. It takes all to make a negative perception go away.
In the meantime, good officers leave because they feel like a second rate citizen. You cannot continue to "say" it does not exist if they believe it. You also have to back up your words. Yes, they need to see beyond the perceptions, but so do you and your peers.
2/02/2010 7:55 PM
I knew Glenn well. We were commissioned at about the same time and he was my detailer when I was an 05.
Glenn Little was the the quintessential LDO. I guess this fgoes to show how vulnerable and frail us humans really are.
Glenn - God bless, shipmate.
Tom Desrosier
Tom, I'm glad to see someone step up and defend his shipmate, even if he fell down. Everybody is susceptible to failing of one type or another, but the measure of a man is how he recovers from it. I don't know CAPT Little personally, but I bet he picks himself up and moves on.
For the record, ELT1 is right about Old Tom Rd. The speed limit there is more about harrasing the sailors heading to NPTU Charleston than about safety. Give me a break. Even the golfers I've talked to are annoyed by the slow speed drivers have to travel, because they have to wait for them to go by before they can tee off. I'm not willing to blame the CO of NWS, though. I blame the rent-a-cops who act as if they are Harry Callahan and they are saving San Francisco from Scorpio.
2/02/2010 8:01 PM
Exactly what command could you have been in with Capt. Little?
He was the NWS CO, home to NPTU Charleston.
There was a shit mail sent out at nptu from the XO about how Capt Little was "losing patience" with traffic violations.
Just trying to clear up confusion.
2/03/2010 3:51 PM
one thing that always pissed me off when i was a submariner,
all the god damned adultery.
i hope the same punishment is 'rewarded' to this idiot that he would have 'rewarded' to any sailor under his command.
2/03/2010 7:29 PM
WELL WELL the ole capt might not have gotten BLOWN, HE JUST SETTLED FOR GETTING F-D. Carry on sailor, the ole nav has changed. HUMOR LEFT IN 1985............
2/04/2010 6:21 AM
See... now this is why I always came in the back way via Wilkinson... I could get up to 50mph out there without any issue, and the drive was always quiet because no one else came that way.
Granted, I lived in the absolute slums of North Charleston when I was there, just south of the local baseball stadium.
2/04/2010 7:38 AM
Being a USNA grad or Mustang has no bearing on his morals. He got caught, just like Clinton did. He should have implemented proper risk assessment procedures, or sent in an A-Ganger first. We would have done that cop upside down and sideways, and if the police dog attacked, well...it is fair game too. Pets and farm animals....they are not just for eatin'!!!
2/05/2010 2:21 PM
This is similar story - CO of DDG 103 was just fired according to the navytimes for "loss of confidence."
2/21/2010 9:14 PM
Quite worthwhile material, thank you for the post.
3/28/2012 5:57 AM
Really useful information, thanks for the post.
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