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Thursday, June 10, 2010

Notre Dame Accepts Invitation To Join MAC!

Remember, if you read it on the Internet, it must be true...

Update 0830 12 June: Speaking of cool things you can find only on the Internet:

[Intel Source: Right Mind] Here's the actual picture this one was based on.

Regarding college conference expansion, I've been against the move of my beloved Nebraska Cornhuskers to the Big T(w)e(lve)[n], but I recently decided that it probably had to be done. As only Nixon could go to China, only Dr. Tom Osborne could take Nebraska to such a whiny conference. Now, I'm left hoping that when everything clears, my alma mater Kansas ends up in the Mountain West, where I'll at least be able to see their basketball team come to Boise every two years.


Blogger Rich said...

They're too scared of NIU!

6/10/2010 10:50 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way...

6/10/2010 12:04 PM

Anonymous Vic said...

The way they've been playing lately, that looks about right. I like watching MAC football.

6/11/2010 7:46 AM

Anonymous mentaljim said...

What's a Notre Dame?

6/11/2010 9:32 AM

Anonymous PortTackStart said...

What's a Notre Dame?

It's a church in Paris, the name stands for Our Lady.

Oh, I guess it's also a college that's been beat by Navy the past couple of years.

6/11/2010 2:53 PM

Anonymous 2004ROTC GRAD said...

It's a school that has been beaten by USNA over the last couple of years... not a school that has been beaten by the NAVY (the US Navy doesn't have a team - the US Navy is the entire Navy including enlisted & officers i.e. the ROTC grads of Notre Dame & OSU, etc... The US Navy does have a basketball team though!)

6/11/2010 6:12 PM

Anonymous PortTackStart said...

It's a school that has been beaten by USNA over the last couple of years... not a school that has been beaten by the NAVY (the US Navy doesn't have a team - the US Navy is the entire Navy including enlisted & officers i.e. the ROTC grads of Notre Dame & OSU, etc... The US Navy does have a basketball team though!)

Wow...chill out, dude. I did not say the US Navy has beat ND (or even the Navy has beat ND), I said Navy has beat ND. Navy is what we call the USNA sports teams. Have you ever seen a Navy game? It says Navy on their uniforms. The name on the scoreboards is Navy. The announcers say Navy. Much like when West Point plays, they are called Army, and when USAFA plays, they are called Air Force. Tradition!

When anyone says Navy beat Army or Navy beat Notre Dame, no one is thinking it was the US Navy that did it.

6/11/2010 7:56 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Navy Football (in good seasons, or bad) refers to the USNA (and all Navy Units) football team.

Just watch the Navy / Army game each year to see the fleet support.

6/11/2010 8:17 PM

Anonymous NHSparky said...

I'd say that they're a team that lost to USC several times over the past several years, but then again, USC (University of Second Choice, University of South Central, University of Spoiled Children) had to cheat to do it.

6/12/2010 9:23 AM

Blogger commoncents said...

Awesome post! Keep up the great work!!

Common Cents

ps. Link Exchange???

6/12/2010 9:45 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

{When anyone says Navy beat Army or Navy beat Notre Dame, no one is thinking it was the US Navy that did it.}

Correct. Because if the US Navy wanted to beat Notre Dame the result would be a large crater where Notre Dame used to be.

6/12/2010 2:26 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't like the idea of Nebraska switching to the Big Ten. During my years at UNL I saw the Huskers I always enjoyed watching the Huskers play, and destroy Texas, Texas A/M and the Sooners.. I guess thoes grudge matches will soon come to an end.

If Tom Osborne thinks its a good idea, who I'm I to argue.


6/14/2010 2:01 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of USNA football, how about that ex-player Adam Ballard booted from the Marine Corps for cheating in a school! It appears that Marine Corps officers have much higher standards than the USNA teaches. Way to go Ballard, maybe you should consider politics, that kind of behavior might get you far in that profession.

6/14/2010 6:13 AM

Anonymous but what about the next war said...

Speaking of the USNA: see this NY Times article on a former submariner's thoughts about how to shut off the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Caution: you will not like everything this man has to say, perhaps especially about submarines being more or less obsolete.

6/14/2010 7:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WRT aforementioned article:

1. The article is kind of pointless.

2. That dude is kind of gay.

6/14/2010 8:28 AM

Anonymous pc assclown said...

So when does Worf get knighted?

And will the queeny use a phaser set to stun when she knights him?

6/14/2010 10:57 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The article posted by the ex-Sub guy really doesn't give any analysis to the pros and cons of the decision.

To say, "Well, its worked before" is both shortsighted and misleading.

6/14/2010 12:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Big Ten had eleven and gained one. The Big-12 had twelve and lost two. Next order of business is for the Big-12 and Big Ten to swap logos and swap names.

6/14/2010 3:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ND and the Big Ten looked at ND joining several years ago, but ND lacked the academic resources (most specifically libraries) and research clout that the Big Ten required. Membership in the AAU has been a requirement for joining the Big Ten for many years now, and ND isn't a member. No other conference has such a requirement. In short, there are no other conferences with the academic credentials of the Big Ten, and it won't change anytime soon.

6/14/2010 5:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the comment that ND "lacked academic resources and research clout that the Big Ten required...." lets take a look at recent data to see how that statement stacks up against recent facts?

2008 Graduation Rates:

Overall Division 1-A Football - 67%

Big Ten Football Graduation Rates:
Northwestern - 92%
Penn State - 78%
Iowa - 75%
Illinois - 70%
Michigan - 70%
Indiana - 68%
Purdue - 63%
Wisconsin - 63%
Ohio State - 52%
Minnesota - 51%
Michigan State - 51%

Notre Dame - 94%
Navy - 95%

Not sure what academic resources that the Big Ten has that ND supposedly "lacks" but it sure is not showing up in the football graduation rates.

6/14/2010 9:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now let's take a look at the 2008 Basketball Graduation rates (amazing what a few clicks of the mouse will uncover on the internet!)

2008 Basketball Graduation Rates

Overall Division 1-A Basketball - 62%

Big Ten Basketball Graduation Rates:
Northwestern - 90%
Wisconsin - 86%
Illinois - 80%
Penn State - 78%
Purdue - 77%
Indiana - 62%
Michigan State - 60%
Ohio State - 53%
Michigan - 46%
Iowa - 46%
Minnesota - 36%

Notre Dame - 100%
Navy - 97%

I will grant the argument that with fewer number of players than football the graduation rates of basketball players is more prone to statistical edge effects, but the fact remains that there are fewer players to concentrate on to graduate and the overall trend appears to be consistent between football and basketball.

If on the other hand we dispense with the fiction that DIV-1A scholarship players are there to graduate then I will shut up but please do not talk about one school lacking academic resources when the graduation rates clearly tell a different story.

Damn I hate it when data ruins a good supposition....!! ND did not join the Big Ten in the past but it does not look like a lack of academic resources were the culprit.

Next theory??

6/14/2010 9:10 PM

Anonymous mark/MM1(ss) said...

OMG, what a tedious friggin' argument this is...blechh

6/14/2010 10:02 PM

Blogger FT2(ss) said...

Hey dont make fun of NIU, we dont suck that bad.

6/17/2010 11:19 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

PHD's don't care about athletic graduation rates. Research has nothing to do with Football, and the Big Ten is first and foremost a group of schools that cooperate academically and play sports on the side.

6/17/2010 9:46 PM

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