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Wednesday, July 13, 2005

Procedural Compliance in the Navy

A submariner can only do something if the procedures say he can.
An aviator can do anything unless his procedures say he can't.
A skimmer will say, "We have procedures?"

It sounds funny, but was pretty accurate as little as 10 years ago.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I learned this a little differently...

Submarines: Only do if the procedures say you can.

Surface: Only do it unless the procedures say you can't.

Air: Do it and beg forgiveness later.

7/13/2005 3:00 PM

Blogger PigBoatSailor said...

So that's why my first CO told me I reminded him of an aviator.

And here I thought it was because I was always trying to duck standing duty in port ;-)

7/13/2005 3:12 PM

Blogger bothenook said...

when i was a nuclear test engineer at mare island, i had to come up with some "innovative" and "inventive" procedures and operations to support emergent work. one of the fast ones i tried garnered the following response from our naval reactors rep: "Mr. bothenook, the reactor plant manual is not a "don't do" book. it's a "do-do" book. at which time the office fell apart. it took someone explaning it for the NRRO rep to get why we thought that was one of the most insightfull and amusing statements made in the meeting.

7/13/2005 6:17 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's simpler than that fellers(K.I.S.S.).

Brownshoe- 600 kt mind

Bubblehead- 43 kt mind in the dark...

Shoe- 12 kt mind on a good day

blunt nose brownhoe

7/14/2005 2:12 PM


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