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Saturday, January 27, 2007

Picture From Today's Anti-War Rally ("9-II Was An Inside Job")

One of the main problems that liberals have in this country (other than a myopic naïveté about how the world really works) is their failure to come up with a consistent message. Today's anti-war rally in D.C. might have been an opportunity for them to demonstrate some organizational skills; unfortunately, they couldn't quite figure out how to make themselves not look ridiculous on TV:

So why is the person who made the sign concerned about something called "9-II" being an inside job? (Even the DUmmies are upset about it.) And why invite Jane Fonda to speak if they hope to convince Middle America that they're not complete jerks?

Update 1441 27 Jan: While this isn't really related (other than belonging to the same general category: politics), and I don't think that has anything to do with her fitness (or lack of same) to be President, I figured I might as well post the video of Sen. Clinton "singing" the national anthem -- just because everyone will be talking about it later:

It sounds like she got the words wrong in one place...


Blogger half said...

Your give-away is the pali-love scarf surrounding her otherwise normal neck.

1/27/2007 3:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATTN: bubblehead

seems like a diverse group of people came together for a common cause - to end the war

i doubt if everyone there was concerned about 9-11 or the culprits of 9-11 or even if it was an inside job

i guess the best anaology i could use (on this web site) would be that of a sub crew

the sub crew is diverse group of people and beliefs but they all agree upon the need to work together in order to complete the mission

the DdoubleSstandard

1/27/2007 4:37 PM

Blogger G-Man said...

I cannot belive the anti-war protestors. Let them be the first to die if the insurgents start thier suicide attacks here in the states.

1/28/2007 12:08 AM

Blogger CDR Salamander said...

Looks like they didn't even break 10,000. They did not help themselves at all - showing themselves for what they are; the usual suspects of far-Left blame-America meets Jihadi-lov'n Islamists wanna-be's.

Pathetic showing, hurt their cause much more than helped. I have been looking for, but have not seen, a "Free Mumia" sign. I am sure there is one in the mix somewhere.

1/28/2007 2:56 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The stuttering typist said:

"the sub crew is diverse group of people and beliefs but they all agree upon the need to work together in order to complete the mission".

Yup, true enough. To bad the Dems in Congress can't learn from us.


1/28/2007 4:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

this concerns the 4:04 am comment - "To bad the Dems in Congress can't learn from us."

i don't quite know who you are defining as "us".

also, i don't know who the Dems are learning from since comments made at the recent Senate hearings indicate that many of the Republicans are begining to voice opposition to the invasion and occupation and surge

~ theDdSs

1/28/2007 7:41 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATTN: cdr salamander

you made the following comment - "Pathetic showing, hurt their cause much more than helped."

if they hurt their cause then how you explain the various polls that show more and more Americans are agreeing with their cause

i.e. look at the number for and against the surge

~ theDdoubleSstandard

1/28/2007 7:47 AM

Blogger Chap said...

Keep honking that bicycle horn, clown.

1/28/2007 8:01 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATTN: chap at 8:01am

from Jan. 2007 - Do you support or oppose sending additional U.S. troops to Iraq to help stabilize the country?

36% support and 59% oppose

and the trend lines show a direction of less "support" and more "oppose"

i think those bicycle horns are getting louder

~ theDdSs

1/28/2007 8:26 AM

Blogger lazlong said...

Wow, citing an online poll, I am truly humbled at your abilities. How can you truly cite an online poll, which has most likely been "DU'd" concerning the war? I mean, give me a break.
And I do believe that Robbie was refering to "us" as submariners, who come from all different walks of life, but pull it all together to operate on of the most complicated machines ever built in a safe and efficient way.

1/28/2007 10:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


sorry, that i wasn't more specific

the poll i cited was NOT an on-line poll

it was a statistically scientific poll conducted by the Opinion Dynamics Corporation for FoxNews (and, i doubt if anyone can sanely argue that FoxNews is with the anti-war rally people)

the FoxNews poll finding is consistent with other polling data

and those findings show that the American majority opposes the surge

again, it seems that the American majority agrees with the "anti-war rally" people

~ theDdSs

1/28/2007 11:24 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the actual question from the poll Fox did.

Do you support or oppose sending additional U.S. troops to Iraq to help
stabilize the country?
Support Oppose (Don’t know)
16-17 Jan 07 36% 59 6
Democrats 14% 79 7
Republicans 62% 31 6
Independents 36% 59 5

All along party lines. Go figure.

PDF of poll can be found here:

"..Republicans are begining to voice opposition to the invasion and occupation and surge"

Can you say political expediency?

Concerning the GWOT I quote GHWB: "Stay the course."

...or as Morton said to O'Kane:

"Tenacity Dick, stay with the bastard till he's on the bottom. ..."

And with that, I'm gonna step away so I don't start a flamewar with this DDH (If you were on board the 637 boat during 77-81, you'll recognize this initialism coined by Lt.(jg) James H. McKee (II or III, I cain't remember).


1/28/2007 12:39 PM

Anonymous Chief_Torpedoman said...

I dislike polls because the pollsters want you to give your opinion within the context of “their” question and “their” answers, not based upon your own true beliefs which may or may not be on of the choices they give.

Do you support or oppose sending additional U.S. troops to Iraq to help
stabilize the country?

Let me see here, if I support sending additional troops, then I you say that I am for the war. If I oppose sending more troops, then you believe I am against the war.

How about if I oppose sending in amount of troops proposed over several months because it is too little to affect the long term situation, but I am in favor of going all out and sending in a couple of hundred thousand more troops to get the job done and then get out? Isn’t something like that in line with The Powell Doctrine? I am not saying that is or is not my opinion, just that opinions are way more diverse than polls allow for.

Yet polls such as this leave no room for answers like mine. That is why they seem to me to just have the goal of fostering sensationalism, not reflecting how diverse Americans really feel. A phrase sticks in my mind. I don’t know if anyone famous said it or not. Half measures usually being half results.

1/28/2007 1:23 PM

Blogger Chap said...

You gots a lot of work to do to get to the proper level of clownage...

1/28/2007 5:00 PM

Blogger Chap said...

TMC, well said. People who pay for polls usually want their money's worth. Sometimes that money's for ethical reasons.

1/28/2007 6:56 PM

Blogger half said...

Well so there I was, on the 6 a.m. bus watch in the cold wind. 19 kts from the NW with an air temperature of 38 F. I waited and waited. Until I realized that George Fucking Bush had hijacked my bus. I then walked to work in the wind and rain, determined to never, ever, ever allow Haliburton to control my life again. Now I am a free man.

1/29/2007 11:42 AM

Blogger Skippy-san said...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thiks Fonda speaking was a bad move. I hate the war in Iraq, but folks need to be smarter than that.

1/31/2007 8:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wondered around the protest for a bit, letting myself get fired up at the stupidity being shown. I may be mistaken, but I thought that I saw a bunch of other people wearing the t-shirt that the guy on the left of the picture was wearing. It said "end the occupation". Seeing that it was an anti-Iraq protest, you would have thought that it was referring to Iraq. Nope, its referring to an Israeli occupation of Palestine.

There were a bunch of groups there with their own little protests going on.

2/02/2007 12:48 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this comment is very late ... However, that also affords me the ability to shout,


People like DdoubleSstandard who follow the polls of incredibly over sensitive and whimsical idiots who only read headlines will surely doom this country.

Thank god our forefathers had the sense to figure that out and construct the constitution so that idiots like him can't truly affect the outcome of our country.

- The Unmoderate Realist

8/12/2008 11:28 AM


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