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Monday, September 15, 2008

Unidentified Submarine In Japanese Territorial Waters

The Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Forces reported that one of their destroyers spotted the periscope of an "unidentified" submarine in their home waters between Kyushu and Shikoku islands yesterday:
Japan's navy tracked a submarine that intruded into its waters for nearly two hours Sunday and then lost track of it without identifying its nationality, a military official said.
Naval vessel Atago spotted the submarine in Japanese waters at 6:56 am (2156 GMT Saturday) but the craft did not raise a national flag or surface, breaching international laws, a defence ministry spokesman said.
Atago, an Aegis-equipped warship, chased the submarine off the coast of Kochi prefecture in western Japan, facing the Pacific Ocean, until about 8:40 am (2340 GMT), he said.
"We have not identified the nationality of the submarine and we are still searching for it," the spokesman said.
Using sonar, Atago confirmed that the submarine does not belong to the Japanese navy nor its ally the US navy, he said.
We last heard about JDS Atago (DDG 177) earlier this year when they bumped a fishing vessel. While the unidentified submarine could be Russian or Chinese, past history would indicate that China is the most likely violator. The main evidence for that is fairly obvious -- if the Japanese destroyer was able to "confirm" that the sub wasn't from the U.S. with sonar, that means if must have been loud enough to be heard by a skimmer's sonar, and that's a distinguishing characteristic of Chinese SSNs.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

South Korea.

There is some history there that is not suitable for public consumption.

9/15/2008 11:00 AM

Blogger David said...

Love the double standards.
Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, foreign submarines and other underwater vehicles are "required to navigate on the surface and to show their flag" in territorial waters during peacetime.

9/15/2008 12:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep! I'll go with South Korea as well. After Olympics, don't think China would be interested in this kind of stuff. What would be the purpose? Now playing games with Taiwan,Viet Nam, and Russia, I'll buy into China doing that.

My hunch is the JMSDF let the intruder "get away" after prosecuting them for a while.

Keep a zero bubble......


9/15/2008 2:00 PM

Blogger a_former_elt_2jv said...

Probably let them get away just like the Greenville v. Ehime Maru

9/15/2008 3:44 PM

Blogger midwatchcowboy said...

The JMSDF probably just called up Group-7 and gave a contact report. If we say there was nobody there - then it's Chinese.

9/15/2008 6:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing distinguishing characteristics of Chinese SSNs, Congressman Andrew May. Uh, I mean Mr. Bubblehead.

9/16/2008 2:38 PM

Blogger Zoe Brain said...

My bet's a NORK. But classifying it and distinguishing it from a Chinese Donk would be tricky. Possibly caught snorting.

If it was a Han, well, only one thing in the ocean sounds like a Han. And that's no secret.

9/18/2008 7:51 AM

Blogger T said...

Oh, the dreaded HAN... So dangerous, so looking for you, all like, well, not really sure what else I can say about this.

9/18/2008 11:58 PM

Blogger Greg said...

A whale?

9/21/2008 12:20 PM


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