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Sunday, May 01, 2011

The President's Speech

Breaking news banner up that the President is going to speak in about an hour. I'm guessing he'll be announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden. Any other guesses?

Update 2220 01 May: It's official. They're reporting that it was a SEAL Team that carried out the operation; if so, I'm glad the Navy did it. While they'll probably never be able to publicly announce the name of the SEAL who did the deed, I'm guessing that he'll never need to buy his own drinks for the rest of his life.

I'm glad we shot him, vice killed him with a bomb. It seems more personal that way.

For those who didn't see the President's announcement, here's a link.

Update 0006 02 May: This guy unknowingly Tweeted the attack on the Bin Laden mansion. As far as "what happens next", lots of people are worried about al Qaeda retaliation. It could happen, but it's not like they haven't been trying their best to attack us for the last 10+ years. I'm guessing that if anything does go down, it'll be missions they have in place being launched before they're supposed to be, with concomitant reductions in efficiency. As far as U.S. public opinion, I expect a drop in support for staying in Afghanistan; a lot of people will say, "Well, we got what we came for." And the next time President Karzai whines about the way our military does its job, I would support the President if he were to say, "Fine, we'll leave, I guess you can take care of yourself. And, by the way, you should leave a note to your successor that if we're ever attacked by a group based in Afghanistan again, we won't send in ground troops next time; it'll all be from the air, and not precision-guided, either. B-52s."

47 Comments:

Anonymous boomerchop said...

Apparently so, according to all major news media sources.

5/01/2011 9:01 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As of this writing, BBC does not share the speculation regarding Osama Bin Laden.

One wonders how long the U.S. has had Bin Laden's corpse. Any concrete info out there?

Alternatively, if the President is going to speak for about an hour this late on a Sunday evening, there is little doubt his topic must regard an archaic cult of some description, in my opinion.

Since he would not join said cult until his second term, PBUH, what earth-shattering, socialist-inspired executive order will he announce on Monday at 1:30 +/- te usual 2-hour delay?

Penny Bender

5/01/2011 9:02 PM

 
Anonymous PortTackStart said...

Looks like he's been dead a week, announcement held for DNA testing.

So...now what?

5/01/2011 9:14 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now what? Ayman al-Zawahiri, the putative al-Qaeda leader, formally becomes the number one.

Problem solved? hardly.

5/01/2011 9:23 PM

 
Blogger Mike Golch said...

may he rot inhell along with the hijackers

5/01/2011 9:39 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to wrap the body in bacon and parade it through New York!

Then put the head on a pike on the white house lawn and send the arms and legs to the four corners of the lower 48.

5/01/2011 9:44 PM

 
Blogger Don the Baptist said...

Bravo Zulu NAVSPECWARCOM!

5/01/2011 10:11 PM

 
Blogger MT1(SS)WidgetHead said...

DING DONG that murderous fuckhead is gone. Gone and roasting in hell on a BBQ spit...Now don't forget the basting sauce or the beer.

As indicated, we're not done yet...but tonight's announcement is a great start in that general direction. Perhaps it's time for us Western infidels to have a massive celebration complete with a large volume and variety of alcohol, hookers & strippers, and every pork product known to man on this side of the earth. Baby Backs, short ribs, bacon rapped shrimp, chili dogs and bacon rapped filet mignon. In the morning we could have sausage & egg biscuits for breakfast. Wouldn't all that be fun?

No, the job isn't finished...but we've made some serious headway.

5/01/2011 10:42 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMERICA, FUCK YEA! COMING TO SAVE, THE MUTHAFUCKIN DAY!

5/01/2011 10:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ditto on that Bravo Zulu. Glad to hear it was Seals. Makes those specops mission even more savory.

5/01/2011 10:47 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder at what moment did Bin Laden realize he was fucked - on the commode perhaps when wiping his ass with is right hand. We should shove a nuke up his ass and launch him on a historic flight home.

5/01/2011 11:06 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saint Peter breathlessly runs up to God and Jesus, says: "Come quick! There's a fight at the gates!" All three run down to the pearly gates to see Allah and Mohammed kicking the ever-blessed crap out of a much-worse for wear bin Laden. Allah looks over his shoulder and says to God, "Sorry. We called dibs."

5/01/2011 11:11 PM

 
Blogger MT1(SS)WidgetHead said...

A buddy just sent this to me for a laugh;

"I can see it now: Osama bin Laden goes up to the gates of Heaven where George Washington and James Madison come out and says, "How dare you defile what we've created," and they start whaling on his ass, then 69 other members of the Continental Congress come out and start kicking the shit out of him. Osama says, "Hey, wait! Where are my virgins?" In a lordly fashion, GW stands over a bruised and bloody Osama..."You got it wrong boy! That's 71 *Virginians*, you asshole!"

There is no need for mourning. His death marks a new day for the world.

5/01/2011 11:57 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word is, OBL will be buried at sea. Is it too much to hope the skimmers dump some chum first?

5/02/2011 5:20 AM

 
Anonymous steve oscret said...

"Now dump all trash and garbage clear of the stern."

5/02/2011 5:39 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting that the wording is that we shot / killed him vs was shot/killed during a firefight. My bet is that was the plan including burial at sea. No muss, no fuss. Good plan. Expediant. Keep some DNA to prove the point and move on to #2.

5/02/2011 5:41 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fish food.

Mark the lat/long as a favorite location for routinely blowing sans.

Rackburn

5/02/2011 7:42 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, since no one else will say it I will...We shoulda packaged him up and TDU-ed that M#@$@#$ F@#$.

V/r- Neighborhood Sub O-ganger

5/02/2011 9:58 AM

 
Blogger Lubber's Line said...

Bin Laden - Buried at sea, the ultimate in TDU weights!

More trash to the bottom.

Bravo Zulu Navy Seals.

5/02/2011 11:12 AM

 
Blogger Vigilis said...

Bravo Zulu Navy Seals-- We had better believe that, Lubber!

Did you catch the impromptu prep rally lead by former SSN-23 skipper at the naval academy? It's posted at "Unconsidered Trifles" as WillyShake came out of his dormancy for the Osama news. Enthusiasm is an understatement!!

Juan Caruso illustrates Obama's burial at sea.

5/02/2011 11:41 AM

 
Blogger Gforce said...

Has anyone seen the Long Form Death Certificate??

5/02/2011 11:43 AM

 
Blogger Gforce said...

Getting buried at sea just gets him his 72 sturgeons that much faster!

5/02/2011 12:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vigil, that was Bob CLark and he was the Skipper of the 22. Did not see it though.... It got removed... what was on it? Thanks Reid

5/02/2011 12:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

found it. Great Video they showed up at his doorstep. THanks Vigil

Reid Clark
Proud brother

5/02/2011 12:29 PM

 
Blogger bbrian9 said...

Heard that the prick grabbed one of his wives and used her as a shield. Coward.

5/02/2011 1:59 PM

 
Anonymous Maybe, or maybe not said...

Well sure they said Osama grabbed his wife as a human shield; or maybe the SEAL's just wasted everyone in the room regardless of where they were positioned. Of course OBL ought to look like a coward in his final moments and our team gets to write the narrative. It also explains them killing the guy's wife in the first place, if you don't think about it too hard.

Since Osama was six feet, six inches tall and was shot in the head, his wife must have been some tall woman to use as a human shield.

5/02/2011 2:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Navy SEALs for delivering Bin Laden to Hell and avenging our lost brothers, sisters, daughters, sons and friends from the USS Cole, WTC, Pentagon and Flight 93.

Now string up the rest in Gitmo and be done with it.

5/02/2011 3:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>we won't send in ground troops next time; it'll all be from the air, and not precision-guided, either. B-52s.

Screw that - SLBMs - plural

5/02/2011 6:10 PM

 
Blogger SJV said...

Given his history of fighting, seems unlikely he was a coward. As far as the outcome, with legal circumstances in Pakistan being uncertain, seems like it was best in this instance that he fought back....Saddam ended the same way, but it doesn't seem so likely that OBL would have met the same fate if presented to a Pakistani court.

5/02/2011 6:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

. . . Since Osama was six feet, six inches tall and was shot in the head, his wife must have been some tall woman to use as a human shield.

Who cares? That bitch and anyone else in the compound should have been smoked.

5/02/2011 7:12 PM

 
Blogger Hsiu Norcott said...

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5/02/2011 7:56 PM

 
Anonymous Dardar the Submarian said...

The real problem was; he was found on Pakistan soil, literally yards away from a military site, living in the lap of luxury. WTF, over!
I am quite sure we have known that shit for a long time now. That is probably part of the decision to send in Seals, rather than MOAB his ass in his palace. We can't really bomb a country that is not at war against us. (Officially)

5/03/2011 6:41 AM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

Well, it the words of Tom Cruise, "It doesn't matter what I KNOW, it only matters what I can PROVE." We've likely had eyes on that place for years, but unless and until you can PROVE he was there, and KNEW he would be when the SEALs went in, then all else is moot.

But good on CENTCOM for getting it done. My understanding is they'd been working at a mockup at Kandahar for some time, so when they did get the go order it was that much better for our guys.

Oh, and final memo to phony bastards who would try to get free poontang and beer by claiming you were on the raid or shot OBL, etc., 1--you're not. 2--Nobody believes you. 3--The only people who might will be the pissed off folks who might be looking for a little payback. There's a reason beyond basic OPSEC the SEAL's won't discuss the who/what/where/when/whys. Nobody likes having a target painted on their back, and don't think for a second if it'd give some jihadist some "street cred" to take out the SEAL who did OBL (and oh, hell, throw in the SEAL's family while you're at it) that he wouldn't do it.

5/03/2011 9:02 AM

 
Anonymous Dardar the Submarian said...

Please, don't get me wrong. I fully understand about the proof and knowledge concept. I, as well, applaud CENTCOM for their hard work.

My piss-off comes from Pakistan itself. There is absolutely no way the entire infrastructure of Pakistan could not have known OBL was right there. We have been feedin' Billions of dollars into the Pakistan economy to get them to play ball (money coming out of the military budget, I might add) to have them piss on our leg and say it is raining outside.

Sadly, our only recognizable recourse is to shit on the entire country of Pakistan, which will only hurt the poor and honest that are living there, not to mention screwing up all of the IT support in America.

5/03/2011 9:52 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad it was successful and we didn't lose anyone else.  We've sacrificed enough to get him.  He had to go, let's hope there aren't any really bad consequences.  At first I thought it was bizarre that they dumped him in the ocean so quickly afterward, but then after I thought about it a while, it was probably the best way to handle it.  Who would they have handed the body off to?  I don't think that pictures of his dead body should be released either, no good could come of it.  The sooner there's no trace of him, nothing to go visit, no shrine, the sooner he might be forgotten, and the majority of the people in that part of the world might move on to something better, like they're trying to in Egypt and Libya.  I don't know, wishful thinking maybe. 

5/03/2011 11:27 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad it was successful and we didn't lose anyone else.  We've sacrificed enough to get him.  He had to go, let's hope there aren't any really bad consequences.  At first I thought it was bizarre that they dumped him in the ocean so quickly afterward, but then after I thought about it a while, it was probably the best way to handle it.  Who would they have handed the body off to?  I don't think that pictures of his dead body should be released either, no good could come of it.  The sooner there's no trace of him, nothing to go visit, no shrine, the sooner he might be forgotten, and the majority of the people in that part of the world might move on to something better, like they're trying to in Egypt and Libya.  I don't know, wishful thinking maybe. 

5/03/2011 11:29 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dants Video... worth watching

http://www.drudge.com/news/143831/someday-were-going-get-son

Cut copy paste

5/03/2011 2:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Release the photo of his blown apart head. The American public will find it no more disturbing than the images of people jumping from the WTC that were all over the front pages 10 years ago.

2. I sincerely hope there was some bacon fat or other swine parts wrapped up with his body before dumping it overboard. The bodies of many WTC victims are still unrecovered, and he gets a burial service? He deserved only one thing; the bullets in his head that the SEALs personally delivered.

3. Building his compound in the middle of the Paki "West Point" town simply tells me that some top brass in the Paki military owed him big time or were in on it all from the get go. No way we would be dropping bombs or Hellfire missiles in that area. Safest place for him. Pakistan's duplicity has always been an issue, but this is ridiculous. Stop giving them money now and let them rot.

5/03/2011 5:13 PM

 
Anonymous YNC(SS), USN, Retired said...

Have read a number of stories about this action. Reports are that Osama Bin Laden was shot in the chest and in the left eye, or area thereof. Reports also that when the entry team departed they took along a living person. Perhaps a son of Osama Bin Laden. Our folks deny that last. And, that they only took Osama Bin Laden. If he was the living person they removed, it begs the question, When was the head shot administered?

We all understand the fire discipline SEALs and other Special Operators have. A chest shot and head shot would be as much as 18 inches apart. You might think a "double tap" would put both shots in pretty much the same place. Color me just curious.

In any case, BZ. Now we just watch the Monday morning quarterbacking and second guessing.

5/03/2011 6:18 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My two cents as a civilian:

One item should *not* have been given to the news:

The name of the ship to which OBL's body was taken and from which he was given burial.

That ship and her sailors now and in the future, will be on a hate list, and anyone who innocently wears a CV hat (eg family member)
may be at risk.

Some things should not be given to the news.

This confirms what I and most others have suspected all along--

The Pakistani government was milking us for money. In Alice Albinia's book Empires of the Indus, she travelled to the Northwest Frontier provinces and informs us that the Pakistani government would buy up cheap pot metal rifles in bulk from gunsmithing towns and then show them to the US as 'proof' that Taliban had been persuaded to go straight and give up fighting.

Thats like showing someone bulk oregano and saying you've made a heroic drug bust.

My take on the Pakistani government:

Even when they tell a factual truth, it will be part of a larger lie.

The real shape shifter is knowing now, and beyond all doubt, that the secret of success was to keep the Pakistani government in the dark.

One just cannot win a ground war in those places. Anyone who tries will end up bankrupt and demoralized.

Supervise these regions from the air so they cant be turned back into drug farms and or terrorist training camps and get the rest of the troops home.

5/03/2011 6:29 PM

 
Anonymous T said...

YNC:

It was released today that his wife was SHOT but not killed. I assume she is the one who was taken along

5/03/2011 6:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

t,

According to reports, UBL lived there with 2 wives - one Arabic-speaking, the other Urdu.

Which wife may have been someone's human shield (a casualty)? Who used her as a shield, one of his bodyguards?

The full story is not even being discussed by the press, and our valiant SEALs themselves may never have been privy to it. Yet, both G.W. Bush and Obama's closest (Panetta, etc., know it).

Vigilis is very onto it, and NO, you immature a$$holes, it does not involve women or ring knockers.

Rex

5/03/2011 7:34 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ync

Good points but I did not hear that both UBL shots were from the same weapon. We'll know the story some years down the line when the book is released.

5/03/2011 10:45 PM

 
Blogger MT1(SS)WidgetHead said...

Display the photos. It offers closure for all the victims and families involved. Not just for the countless Muslims he had killed over the years...but also for the people we lost on 9/11 and their grieving families.

Remember when Saddam was shown when the Army caught him? Remember when the grizzly photos of his sons Uday and Qusay were shown after they lost the fire fight in Mosul? These nasty pictures offered considerable confidence to alot of people throughout the world depicting that these murderous cocksuckers are dead and gone. That means they can never hurt anyone ever again.

Same situation with Osama. Show the nasty pictures once and then store them in the archives. Show the world what happens to a murderous & ridiculous sausage sucking bastard when he hurts innocent people.

Additionally, Osama just became an example as to what happens when one fucks with the U.S. Our motto should be: "You fuck with us, we'll turn around and fuck you back, much harder, faster and deeper."

I don't believe in shocking people. However, the photos should be shown (just one time) as evidence that Osama can never EVER hurt anyone again. Now that right there Gents, is called CLOSURE and gives people the ability to move on in their lives.

I think May 1st should be made a national holiday for two reasons...Hitler's carcass was found 1 May 1945. Osama was killed on 1 May 2011. Not a bad idea huh?

That's enough for my rant...I'm just glad we finally got him.

5/04/2011 12:08 AM

 
Anonymous Dardar the Submarian said...

I know we will not know the names of the U.S.Navy Seals that were sent into battle, and I don't want to know. That is part of the mystique that is "U.S.Navy Seal". It was actually like that for boats, too. (back in the good ol' days)

Unfortunately, our enemy doesn't care about their names and I pray for ALL Navy Seals and all affiliated with them. The terrorists had absolutely no problem killing 3000 men, women and children; white, black, Christian and Muslim, just to prove a point, so I doubt they will walk away from this because they may not get the guy that had anything to do with the death of their ass-munch leader? We have scruples - they don't.

5/04/2011 6:57 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got an e-mail yesterday with the latest SEAL cocktail called a Bin Laden. Two shots and a splash.

DBFTMC(SS)USNRET

5/07/2011 12:19 PM

 
Blogger Ken said...

Dants Video... worth watching

http://www.drudge.com/news/143831/someday-were-going-get-son

Cut copy paste

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7/27/2011 3:43 AM

 

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