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Monday, September 12, 2011

"Red Sky At Morning..."

Because recent pictures of my last boat, USS Jimmy Carter (SSN 23) are so rare, I'll post them whenever they show up in the public domain:

From the caption: "The Seawolf-class attack submarine USS Jimmy Carter (SSN 23) returns to its homeport of Naval Base Kitsap-Bangor at sunrise." Welcome home, guys, from whatever you were out doing.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we need them, maybe we don't...but if Obama wants to spend 447 billion to create jobs, how about 50 billion of that for 10 new Seawolf(s/ves?). At least we'll get something cool out of it.

9/12/2011 10:22 PM

Anonymous Sub Spy said...

Still hurts to see a Boat named after Jimmy Carter. What's worse is she replaced the Parche as our number one SpecOp Boat. I'm sure she is manned by a fine hand picked Crew willing to do what's needed to ensure our safety from all enemies!

Sub Spy

9/12/2011 11:03 PM

Anonymous James Skinner said...

The Navy named a submarine after Jimmy Carter, arguably one of our worst presidents. So what kind of ship will the USS Barrack Obama be.

9/13/2011 2:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Peanut Carter might have been a bad President. But he was a Bubble Head and did help give us Kings Bay Submarine Base. Just saying.... It might not be named for because he was President.

9/13/2011 5:03 AM

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9/13/2011 5:42 AM

Blogger hughmon said...

The mountains are to the West. Is this perhaps a PM shot of return from Dabob Bay?

9/13/2011 5:47 AM

Anonymous NHSparky said...

Dabob Bay, tracking killer rabbits?

9/13/2011 6:18 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's the Cascade mountains and the boat is probably in Admiralty Inlet driving south. Picture was probably taken from Marrowstone Island. Definately sunrise vs. sunset because she transited the HC bridge in the morning.

9/13/2011 6:28 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

They may have transitted in the morning, but that pic was def. taken at sunset and on an outbound track. The casscades are way too far away too look that close and any shot of the Olympics has to come from the north or east and an inbound track would have the boat facing the other direction. Just sayin...

9/13/2011 7:45 AM

Blogger Ret ANAV said...

From someone who grew up there: That's DEFINATELY the Olympics (Cascades are not AS jagged and are too far away for such detail), so either heading North in the Canal or Admiralty Inlet, or heading West between Sequim and PA. Stock photo that someone pirated.

9/13/2011 9:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Navy named a submarine after Jimmy Carter, arguably one of our worst presidents. So what kind of ship will the USS Barrack Obama be."
- Skinner

Good question. It will not be a USS anything, but definitely a "ship of state".

Which state - An even better question: Hawaii or the world?

The World...(United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea)
Article 93
Ships flying the flag of the United Nations

Obviously a noncombatant, activist vessel. "Ship of Fools" comes firstly to mind.

Other RD (Ralph Duncan)

9/13/2011 10:12 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sunrise, I was there.


9/13/2011 11:37 AM

Blogger wtfdnucsailor said...

According to a story told by Congressman Joe Courtney (D-CT) President Obama was briefed on a mission by the JIMMY CARTER and asked how many subs were able to do what CARTER did. He was told that CARTER was the only special ops sub and the President asked why the Navy had not asked for more since it was so capable.

9/13/2011 1:16 PM

Blogger Ret ANAV said...

So what kind of ship will the USS Barrack Obama be.

My vote would be one of the NG LCS' or an LPD-17 class :)

9/13/2011 2:53 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good thing the SSN 23 was commissioned in 2005, had it been during the current administration it may have been named the John P. Murtha.


9/13/2011 3:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

They may have been returning from a secret mission to Carr Inlet, where they were tasked to find the log sword of the USS Sam Houston, inadvertently deposited there so many years ago.

9/13/2011 5:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon @ 9/13/2011 5:28 PM

What is most interesting is how you divulge cavalierly what would obviously be classified still, but couch it as a mere possibility. You are fortunate not to have been a submariner in the day, as there is yet no internet communication from Fed lockups. Just saying. Anyone disagree?

9/13/2011 6:38 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 6:38

It's not so much that op security has been relaxed, it is just that enlistee nukes have never been privy to op details. The one you fault is just reacting to hearsay. Not the smartest reaction, but some of our nukes suffer from the "big head".


9/13/2011 6:53 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, so classified it made the paper

(and there were other editions with pix, as most should know)

9/13/2011 7:26 PM

Anonymous Mark/MM1(SS) said...

anon @6:38,
I recommend googling "Carr Inlet" to see where it is - you may then realize that it was a joke. The photo is clearly sunset over the Olympics with the Toandos peninsula in the foreground. We've had a spectacular series of sunsets in Kitsap for the past week, due to the fire in the Duckabush watershed.

9/13/2011 7:54 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Parche nukes are the whiniest, laziest nukes of all. We had several Parche nukes show up on our boat after they decommissioned her, and they were roundly bad.

I can think of one Master Chief that appeared to be completely lost in his position (though to be fair, he kind of got forced into it). I suspect that they got special nuke treatment because 1) their boat was older than shit and 2) special national security mission and all that shit.

9/13/2011 8:06 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark MM1(SS)
Thank you, the Schenectady Gazette Article linked by the bozo nuke @ 7:26 was a joke, you say. The article is authentic. On 29 April 1988, Sam Houston ran aground on Fox Island, Washington - no joke.

And, according to SUBPAC protocol THERE WAS NO MENTION of anything lost, was there?

9/13/2011 8:18 PM

Anonymous Mark/MM1(SS) said...

Anon @8:38,
I'm well aware of the grounding of the Sam Houston. The joke was the suggestion that SSN 23 undertook a secret mission to Carr Inlet.

9/13/2011 8:29 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

the log sword of the USS Sam Houston, inadvertently deposited there so many years ago

not very funny to some

9/13/2011 8:43 PM

Anonymous Hello said...


9/13/2011 9:24 PM

Blogger Ret ANAV said...

Call me kooky, but methinks viewing a sunRISE with the Olympics in the background from the confines of Hood Canal would be astrophysically impossibe...but hey, I could be wrong...Dec 2012 is looming. :)

9/14/2011 1:40 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And here I am thinking that the Jimmy Carter was still tied up to a "special" pier in Groton, where she spent most of her youth...Silly me

9/14/2011 6:50 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, the photo was not taken from a mirror image. Only purists might still do that instead of digitally flipping pixels to make things appear backwards.


9/14/2011 1:56 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark MM1(SS)@ 7:54 PM

See your point, thanks!
- anon @6:38

9/14/2011 2:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh man, that was, like civil - no offense, but this blog is lame when it's so civil. How 'bout them homos and chicks on boats, eh?

9/14/2011 9:58 PM

Anonymous Sonia Charming said...

Its looking awesome sunrise.

9/15/2011 4:33 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

still don't care how you flip it...sun does not RISE over the Olympic Mountains. I have watched it set over them numerous times though.

9/15/2011 10:01 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

this thread cracks me up... from the teabagger comments to the photoshop and opsec back and forths. very amusing. by the way, Jimmy Carter could have been worse. let's see how history compares him to W. At least he didn't drive our nation into a recession and a fiasco called Iraq.

9/15/2011 10:15 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jimmy Carter could have been worse

You got that right: He could've been Obama.

9/15/2011 12:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon @ 10:15

History already has compared W (Iraq secured; Saddam deposed) and Carter (Iran Hostage Crisis; gasoline rationing).

I suppose some think could think Carter (created Dept of Energy) the better leader (gave away the Panama Canal), but such minds cannot even imagine that Mexico will someday consume all of her own oil.

Drill, baby, Drill!

9/15/2011 12:53 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Drill, baby, Drill!"

Why, just commission more nuclear power plants. After spending $100 Billion on Yucca Mountain, let's dump Sen Reid and open it.

9/15/2011 1:18 PM

Anonymous NHSparky said...

Why, just commission more nuclear power plants. After spending $100 Billion on Yucca Mountain, let's dump Sen Reid and open it.

Easier said than done. A lot of them that were proposed aren't going to be built anytime soon simply because of the huge investment ($12-20 Billion per unit) and the absolute unwillingness of most state PUC's to grant the rate hikes necessary to have them built.

Florida is one case in point. FPL wanted to build two new nukes at Turkey Point, asked for $10B in their rate case for that and other things. Florida PUC said no, FPL walked away and shut down a whole host of other projects as well.

And don't even get me started on the idiot moonbat hippies who are trying to shut down Vermont Yankee.

9/15/2011 2:46 PM

Anonymous Mr. Popularity said...

Brand new Navy Times annual survey in this week's issue.

President Obama has a whopping 25 percent job approval rating among the active duty military who answered the poll.

25% job approval, way to go Mister President.

9/15/2011 7:13 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was sunrise, jackwagons, and those are the Cascades not the Olympics while looking East from Port Townsend area. Special shout out to the professional photographer who donated the photo to the US Navy the same day he took it.

9/16/2011 2:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Florida PUC said no, FPL walked away and shut down a whole host of other projects as well.

Not entirely correct. While FPL did give up their place in line for some long lead items, they have purchased other multi-million $ components for the new units. The PUC will come around. FPL is just waiting on the economy.

9/16/2011 7:26 AM

Anonymous Dardar the Submarian said...

still don't care how you flip it...sun does not RISE over the Olympic Mountains. I have watched it set over them numerous times though.

9/15/2011 10:01 AM

How the fuck does it ever see daylight then? Prospective - my detail deficient friend - prospective.

9/16/2011 9:28 AM

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9/16/2011 12:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prospective - my detail deficient friend - prospective.

Perspective - my detail deficient friend - perspective.

Pot, meet kettle.

9/16/2011 1:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is a picture of the JC passing Port Townsend, heading south to Bangor. I was in Sequim that same morning and the sunrise was quite awesome. I talked to a friend off the boat later that afternoon and he remarked about the sunrise.

That said, one could easily confuse the picture thinking the boat is heading north up the Hood Canal or just past Foulweather Bluff at sunset.

The link below shows another picture of the Cascade Mountains from PT.

Jim C.
Retired ANAV

9/16/2011 2:14 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim C. and anon @ 2:04 AM -

Thanks for demonstrating that facts can be communicated succinctly without foul language.

Conservative Sally, PO1

9/16/2011 5:54 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This just in...
AP Exclusive: Navy clears gay WWII vet’s record

"The Navy notified the 89-year-old former corpsman last month that he will now be eligible for the benefits he had long been denied, including medical care and a military burial...

While working at the Marine base on Parris Island, S.C., Dwork sent letters to his boyfriend, stationed in New Orleans, declaring in one: "I love you, love you, love you incessantly." But after his gay friends warned him to be careful, he stopped writing love letters.

Later, Dwork was sitting in class, training to be an officer at Clemson, when MPs showed up and marched him out of the room. His teacher told the class that if he were Dwork's father, he would cut off Dwork's genitals.

He was thrown in the brig, then transferred to a psychiatric ward in Charleston, S.C., where he said he spent a couple of weeks being peppered with "stupid" questions.

This case should prove that, "Its an ill wind that 'blows' no good."

ADM Roughneck (yes, we read this blog routinely)

9/16/2011 6:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

No real admiral would ever write anything so free of vapid New-Speak, and heavy handed navy propaganda.

9/17/2011 11:19 AM

Anonymous Mark/MM1(SS) said...

Plus the guy's name is Roughead.

9/17/2011 6:09 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously you guys don't understand sarcasm!

9/17/2011 8:24 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This photo is definitely sunrise in the Olympic mountains as viewed from the Straits of Jaun de Fuca.
Compare the mountains with this image.

9/18/2011 9:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was was sunrise heading home.

I think it is a great pic!

9/27/2011 8:56 PM

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