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Wednesday, March 02, 2005

60 Minutes and USS San Francisco

From Ron Martini's Submarine BBS, a post from the father of the Sailor who died on the USS San Francisco says that 60 Minutes may be preparing a story on the grounding. It'll be interesting to see how this evolves, and if they'll focus on the skill of the crew, or go for the sensational. I know which direction I'm leaning...

Going deep...

11 Comments:

Blogger ninme said...

Hrmm. Is Dan Rather going to use recently discovered, fresh from the private files of Kevin Mooney proving Bush shirked his duty on the San Francisco and as a result it hit a seamount?

3/02/2005 11:13 PM

 
Blogger Bubblehead said...

I'm going with the "Rove ordered the seamount moved into the San Francisco's track in order to distract the public from the failed Iraqi elections, as revealed by Congressman Hinchey" angle.

3/02/2005 11:18 PM

 
Blogger ninme said...

With documents discovered by Dan Rather from Ken Mooney's private files proving this assertion, of course!

3/02/2005 11:20 PM

 
Anonymous Former NavET said...

nimme, you've got it all wrong, its the navigation charts supplied by the Commander and Chief that were forgeries, not the CO's papers. Different track for Dan.

Former NavET

3/03/2005 7:29 AM

 
Blogger ninme said...

Oh, I see. Okay, how's this:

Dan Rather will use, as the basis of his 60 Minutes story, which will prove that George W Bush shirked his duty to his country, documents supplied by the President *to* Ken Mooney, including navigation charts done apparently in the 1970s (but really done on Photoshop last night), that *purposefully* moved the seamount in order that the USS San Francisco crash into it, distracting the public from the failed Iraqi elections, which Mooney afterwards hid in his personal file to protect his Commander-In-Chief. Then Congressman Hinchey will suggest the existance of proof that perhaps, was it not Dan Rather, but Karl Rove, who supplied these documents, in order to distract the public from the failed scheme of the President moving seamounts to distract the public from the failed Iraqi elections?

3/03/2005 12:01 PM

 
Anonymous Former NavET said...

But wait… A Canadian blogger and expert in Photoshop proves that the charts were done in Autocad not Photoshop. The version of Autocad has a flawed seamount rendering algorithm used only in a version available during the 1990s as a Clinton Administration technology transfer to China... O Hell, I think we’re turning the Bubblehead Blog into (The other Democrat Underground) have to stop.

3/03/2005 1:55 PM

 
Blogger ninme said...

Ow my head.

3/03/2005 3:37 PM

 
Blogger bubbleheadfl said...

Ok, A little off track here, but I have to ask. Now that we are in the civilian popoulas, how many questions do you get from the civilians when there is a submarine issue? I retired in 96 and got to go through the Hawaii situation in the civilian workplace. For 3 weeks, a day did not go by that I was not asked several questions about the incident. Like "What really happened?" Well, it was like this. I was standing AOW and was blowing sanitaries>>>>. Its like they expect you know all the answers because you were once on boat. What ever happened to "ignorance is bliss"? Anyway, I agree with ninme that the charts came from Bush as declared by Rather and it was a diversion from the elections in Iraq. But, then again it could have been Rove trying to make good on his failed attempt at ambushing Bush for his military service. The really sorry thing is any of these thoughts can probably be found in cyberspace and the writer truly sincere.

Blowing Sanitaries

3/03/2005 7:15 PM

 
Blogger ninme said...

Who said we're not sincere?!

Okay, new idea:

Just finished watching an MI-5, in which they were running a drill in which it was presumed a major terrorist attack had happened, in this case a VX attack in central London. PM, government, Royal Family all gone. So who's the government? Well, wouldn't you know it, but the RNs nuclear subs fit into the chain of command somehow (presumably because of their unique degree of protection against whatever substance has contaminated the air outside). I'm not sure how, exactly, but neither were the characters in the show, because that was all part of the confusion, you see, there was no clear chain of command because everything was being rewritten in these modern times.

At any rate, it got me thinking about Rove:

Assuming of course that our own subs are intended for the same purpose as those in the RN, and why wouldn't they (after all we got everything else about the Navy from the British), what if Rove is removing the subs one at a time to shore up his own power grab should anything happen? Perhaps he has his own opinions on where the government should fall, should anything befall the current one!

(now my head really hurts)

3/04/2005 12:04 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FACTS: 60 Minutes Wednesday interviewed CDR Kevin Mooney for an upcoming segment on the USS San Francisco grounding. They taped for many hours and covered nearly every aspect of the accident with special attention paid to the chart issues, the crews actions to save the ship and especially their actions to save their shipmate MM2 Joe Ashley. There was no sensationalism or bitterness in CDR Mooney's words. Unlike the Navy, he acted with honor and explained that as Captain, he was responsible for the ship regardless of external factors that contributed to the accident. David Martin, the CBS Pentagon Correspondent who conducted the interview, gave CDR Mooney numerous openings to attack the Navy, all of which he declined. He told Mr. Martin he should address questions about the Navy's and other government agencies' shortcomings to those organizations. 60 Minutes also plans to interview crewmembers when and if the Navy makes them available (the Navy says it will after the investigation is released). Since CBS gets to "edit" the interview and juxtapose any picture, sound effect or voice-over, we won't know if they focus on sensationalism until they air the piece.

4/26/2005 6:18 PM

 
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