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Wednesday, October 19, 2005

Women On Subs

Looks like it's Chapomatic's turn to host the roundtable this quarter... head on over and join in the fun!

A preview from Chap's post:

"Man The Boats Correctly. If you wish to succeed, like I said before, you cannot just put onesies-twosies on the boat. That will only result in those people being “special” and either appearing to be treated special, or appearing to only be there for politics. This is not only not fair to the boats; it’s unfair to the women who take the risk of doing the job. You need not just junior enlisted but also senior enlisted, you need department-head and junior officers, and you need hard chargers who can deal with every good thing they do being treated as “only because she’s a girl”, getting harassed (sexually or otherwise, remembering that harassment is part of being a bubblehead) until the culture shifts sufficiently, and in the case of more senior folks on the boat a more vertical learning curve. Man more than one boat, but if you only have enough for including one just one, then choose the larger integration on one boat rather than spreading three at a time around the fleet. Don’t put all the women in the “special women place” where you can avoid it because there are officers and enlisted who need their space to complain about the other ranks and not given the impetus to unnecessarily fraternize, and kicking department heads out of their stateroom just isn’t going to win converts automatically."

Sounds like a good start for an interesting discussion.

2 Comments:

Blogger Chap said...

Much obliged!

Re painting, I remember one of the Cold War vets sneaking over to a sister boat, painting a lemon on the rudder and covering it with tempera paint, thus ensuring the hidden lemon would appear when the boat returned from weekly ops...

10/20/2005 11:17 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might have to re-evaluate this. Did you see the Sub Report for 20 Oct? The Communications Petty Officer of U-31 Stefanie Lange looks pretty hot!

10/21/2005 12:05 PM

 

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