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Monday, February 11, 2008

Russian Provide Valuable Training For U.S. Navy

Lots of people are saying tension between the U.S. and Russia is on the increase, and that may be so. Still, it's nice that the Russians will still go out of their way to provide great training opportunities for U.S. forces:
The bombers were among four Russian Tupolev 95s launched from Ukrainka in the middle of the night, including one that Japanese officials say violated their country's airspace over an uninhabited island south of Tokyo.
U.S. officials tracked and monitored the bombers as two flew south along the Japanese coast, and two others flew farther east, coming closer to the Nimitz and the guided missile cruiser USS Princeton.
As the bombers got about 500 miles out from the U.S. ships, four F/A-18 fighters were launched from the Nimitz, the official said. The fighters intercepted the Russian bombers about 50 miles south of the Nimitz.
At least two U.S. F/A-18 Hornets trailed the bomber as it came in low over the Nimitz twice, while one or two of the other U.S. fighters followed the second bomber as it circled.
The pilot that flew near the carrier seems to have been especially eager to help American Sailors with some lookout quals. Since a Bear in wartime would never want to get very close to their target (but instead launch stand-off weapons and get the heck out of Dodge) it's clear that they weren't training for their own sake -- they were just trying to help out their American friends. Plus, giving the F/A-18 pilots an extended amount of time to practice getting into attack position against a slowly-moving target was very nice of the Russian.

Remember when the Russian submarines used to come out and provide target services for our boats? I wish they'd start doing that again -- there's no better training than having a fire control solution locked onto a potential adversary while he has no clue that you're there.

Update 0722 13 Feb: Here's a picture of a Hornet escorting the Bear during the encounter:

Other pictures are here and here. I guess the articles can't say that the incident is "secret" anymore if the Navy website is publishing pictures of the exercise.

14 Comments:

Blogger reddog said...

I'd really like to hear one of those bears. I understand they are nauseatingly loud.

2/12/2008 2:20 AM

 
Blogger pbsterling said...

I prefer this carrier flyby:

http://www.b1b.wpafb.af.mil/images/gallery/path.jpg

2/12/2008 7:11 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone from the "lawn-dart" community wanna pipe up on the distances and launch timing?

"U.S. officials tracked and monitored the bombers as two flew south along the Japanese coast, and two others flew farther east, coming closer to the Nimitz and the guided missile cruiser USS Princeton.

P3 Puke/Alpha Xray

As the bombers got about 500 miles out from the U.S. ships, four F/A-18 fighters were launched from the Nimitz, the official said. The fighters intercepted the Russian bombers about 50 miles south of the Nimitz."

Seems the F/18s should have been in the Bears face a LOT further out than 50NM...

2/12/2008 3:59 PM

 
Blogger Augie said...

This reminds me of my days on my old boat. Standing lookout as we transited out to sea I was teaching one of the new deck div's the ins and outs of being lookout. All the fun stuff about avoiding objects in the water and judging ranges based on how far you can see due to the height of the bridge.

Well as I'm telling him to be vigilant and alert to all objects that may pose a threat or come too close to the ship, A P3 does a nice flyover on his landing approach. Waving his wings as he flies directly overhead.

Weaps turns around and I give him the quick response of "P3 bearing Up and opening."

2/12/2008 5:18 PM

 
Blogger Jay said...

I don't know why the F-18's would greet them any sooner than any identified aircraft approaching the carrier. My guess is they were doing nothing more provocative than just a flyover, were likely squawking IFF and posed no real threat.

Plus, you have to the give the Russians some credit, getting 4 of these old bombers even in the air is quite a feat for them...

2/12/2008 7:34 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the Bears came in low over the Nimitz (twice)?

What's the Russian word for kamikaze?

2/13/2008 8:36 AM

 
Blogger T.J. said...

I loved the Faux News coverage of this...they showed the same stock footage of a carrier leaving port - looks like it may have been San Diego. Then as they start reading their teleprompters about F/A-18's the video footage as an A-10 taxiing for takeoff. In typical Faux News fashion they then proceeded to run this segment of "news" every 10 minutes for the next 6 hours.

It was funny when they had their military "experts" on discussing the "incident" all the while showing an Air force jet. Real experts.

2/13/2008 6:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TJ, I hate to disturb you in your orgy of Fox-hating, but you do realize that its highly unlikely the "experts" they were interviewing could see the clips or graphics on the screen, yes? Shocking though it might be, that sort of thing is usually not visible to interviewees.

2/14/2008 7:25 AM

 
Blogger Jay said...

The Navy has something official to say about the Bear fly-by. As expected, just something fun for our guys to watch. http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=34966

2/14/2008 3:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is strange that the hornets didn't intercept the bears until 50 miles out. They probably didn't realize the bears were potentially hostile until 200-300 miles that they could see that two blips were approaching them. It is strange that the russian would do this except to gauge our reaction. You gotta know that some chief was holding an FC back from turning the CIWS to full auto. (lol)

2/22/2008 2:51 PM

 
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