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Saturday, February 11, 2012

Nebraska (Gold) COB Fired

The Chief of the Boat of USS Nebraska (SSBN 739)(Gold) was fired for "administrative reasons" on January 3rd, according to Navy Times:
After his relief, the Navy began an investigation into allegations that Turley had had an inappropriate relationship with a female Naval Academy midshipman onboard Nebraska, officials familiar with the investigation said.
The firing came only a month after the first female submariners arrived in the fleet. They began reporting to ballistic-missile subs Wyoming and Maine and guided-missile subs Georgia and Ohio.
Turley’s relief was “unconnected” to allegations of an inappropriate relationship aboard the sub, Early said. Due to privacy concerns, he declined to comment on the nature of the alleged relationship or whether Turley was a subject of the investigation...
...Asked why SUBGRU 9 did not disclose the firing until pressed by Navy Times, Early said that because Turley wasn’t “relieved for cause,” there was no requirement to make his relief public.
Some discussion of this issue before it became public can be found in the comments of an earlier post; I have no idea about the accuracy of anything that was posted there. In general, I'll allow comments to stand for a story that's likely to make it into open source unless someone E-mails me to complain with a good reason why it should be pulled. In general, however, I would ask commenters not to attach names to rumors that aren't open source yet; the comments still show up on a Google search even if the story never does go public or just plain isn't true.

138 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that this all started when his clearance was due to be renewed. His wife was already hip to the fact that he was up to something. So when the investigating agency came calling she told them that he brings classified material home all the time. And oh by the way you should look into the middie that he has been banging. And look they did, including finding a evidence of him traveling to Annapolis and buying her a plane ticket to SEATAC...on the dreaded Govt Fucking Travel Card.

In the words of the immortal Abe Lincoln
"Now you fucked up, now you fucked up,you have fucked up now!!!

2/11/2012 11:16 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a different poster from above.
Many E-7 thru E-9's confirmed the same story above about Dirty Dave. He went to Annapolis under the guise of finding History informationn on the ship at the Naval Historical Center. So he used his lies and the tax payers money to go bang his little conquest. If it doesn't piss you off it should. It hurts all CPO's credibility.
As far as women in subs goes, I could care less. This isn't the last time this will happen. Big Navy is incredibly stupid to think you can isolate men in women in confined spaces for 30+ days without some sex going on. It's going to be a hoot when the first ship gets called off station because of a love triangle.

2/11/2012 11:26 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is amazing how many men have fallen because of that one little thing....that thing has caused wars, ruined careers, ruined families, and spread diseases.

Not to mention that life-support system for the vagina also known as the woman.

Dirty Dave, if this was going to happen to anyone...it would be you! Wish I could help you but I have to agree with old Abe on this one!

Ps. To the little middy...what were you THINKING!??? Thank goodness you will not become an Officer in the United States Navy!

2/11/2012 11:34 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_110907-N-CI293-014_Master_Chief_Electronics_Technician_David_Turley_Electrician's_Mate_2nd_Class_Dustin_Collman_and_Cmdr._Michael_Fisher_po.jpg

2/11/2012 11:37 AM

 
Blogger Curt said...

Happier Day -
http://www.cdhaggard.com/Turley.htm

2/11/2012 12:35 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't be so sure she won't become an officer, anon at 11:34. I have seen Mids survive disciplinary action resulting from sleeping with enlisted. Granted, they ain't usually the most well-rounded Mids otherwise, and tend to mess up again, but she ain't out of the Navy yet.

2/11/2012 12:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Turley has been reassigned to Naval Submarine Support Center Bangor."

Bangor was selected for 'administrative convenience' rather than for inappropriate Non-Judicial Poetry.

Winkleman

2/11/2012 3:05 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was that Bangor or Bangher?

2/11/2012 5:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From my experience at the academy, minorities and females are given much more leeway than the standard Joe Middie. So there is a high potential she will be leading sailors one day.

I once was standing before a officer during a conduct hearing, added in a was a minority, though i dont look it, and something that they were typically hard on I got all suspended. Thats how things really work in todays navy...past 15 years, most O-4's and up just lie about it.

Good luck to the enlisted sailors on the subs....I only fear the next story to come out on the navy times or get covered up...glad the PR told people everyone was trained and ready for this.

2/11/2012 6:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Turley really selling his Rolex or is that just scuttlebutt?

Do submariners even wear Rolex submariners any longer? Just one more question.

2/11/2012 7:19 PM

 
Anonymous YNC(SS), USN, Retired said...

My goodness, a CPO going after a sweet young thing. Who woulda guessed.

It never occurred to me that folks would be asking questions of my late bride when looking into my continued umm clearance. That sneaky little critter; she never said a word about it. That musta been why we stayed married for 35+ years.

2/11/2012 8:19 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What really gets me is how certain members of the twin-star mafia in Bangor knew about it for so long and just did nothing. Let NCIS do their thing and said nothing. So much for Core Values - protecting your own is more important and let the standards be damned. Disgraceful.

2/11/2012 11:56 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little soul food here for the submariners who seek it...or need it...or both.

2/12/2012 7:06 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mid is already gone from the Naval Academy. It took about a week of investigating and ass-chewing and she was packing her bags.

2/12/2012 7:45 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, but is she now serving as a paint chipper on a torpedo retriever somewhere, or did she get off easy? yuk, yuk

2/12/2012 8:19 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If she is made to do an enlisted tour, she'd be perfect on a YPT or YTB. Those girls were very free with their affections. A middie who would do DIrty Dave ought to be a perfect fit for a yard craft...

2/12/2012 9:29 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dirty Dave is still at NSSC. Usually they keep those people around Bangor for while to do the "walk of shame" at the OCAB.

Lot's a infamous characters go there, the San Fran ANAV that ran the boat aground was there for a while, child molesters, fired officers, hazing perps, you name it. They are good training tools for the guys..."don't be like him".

2/12/2012 9:55 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing better after arriving home from deployment than hooking up with a tug or barracks wench! It allows you to drain all that bad WESTPAC seed, maybe rough her up a little, get rid of all that stress.

Then you can move on to something more respectable...just like Dirty Dave would have liked you to do.

2/12/2012 10:45 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Things have sure changed over time. Sure is a different Navy. If this would have happened to me whe I was COB (35 odd yrs. ago), and word got out, I would not have had to by a drink at the
CPO club for at least 6 mts.

2/12/2012 11:36 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable...I sure ain't no choirboy, I had my share of good times in the PI, but with posts like these last two - it's no wonder that every couple of years, some sick khaki-clad lifer fuck on a boat gets introduced to the criminal justice system for some sort of sexual deviancy, often involving minors.

2/12/2012 1:03 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's no wonder that every couple of years, some sick khaki-clad lifer fuck on a boat gets introduced to the criminal justice system for some sort of sexual deviancy, often involving minors

I know of at least one Enterprise MMCS(SW) who left Newport News in cuffs after playing swing games with an underaged Filipino stepdaughter.

Word verification: submalo Ha!

2/12/2012 4:54 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what *did* the middie look like?

2/12/2012 6:59 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So what *did* the middie look like?"

Underway...does it really matter?

2/12/2012 8:02 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old COB says,
I don't believe I said anything about minors???? I doubt that Middie was a minor. And it didn't stop your(not mine), STICK WILLIE, and most all you libs thought that was just fine. HA, HA, he was just havin fun in the oval office, and if I understood right, she was about the same age as that Middie. Just sayin, times have changed.

2/12/2012 8:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why COB's have thier own office.
bow-chicka-bow-wow!

At least there will be another chance for someone to move up now.

2/12/2012 8:29 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old COB - I know you didn't mention minors. That just happens to be the point where the ones who do reach an encounter with the justice system, do. I'm only trying to point out that there are many posts, including yours (to a milder degree) that have a sick, misogynistic streak that is all too common in out community. Your assumptions are all fucked up, BTW - I am very politically conservative, not an evangelical, never voted for Slick Willie, and celebrate my second amendment rights. Crucially though, I am a parent of two young adult men, who I fervently hope have a little more respect for the other half of our species than is indicated my several posts in this thread...

2/12/2012 10:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And so it begins. What did they (CNO, SECNAV, and every other person for diversity) think was going to happen? I heard one of the boomers on the east coast is on there 3rd female CHOP. Where is the screening process for people coming to sea?

The unfortunate reality is everytime a CPO ends up in Navy Crimes it screws the rest us over. Well lets see we had 13 CMC firings in CY 2011 I wonder if we can beat the mark in CY 2012? I hope not.

2/12/2012 10:29 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The unfortunate reality is everytime a CPO ends up in Navy Crimes it screws the rest us over. Well lets see we had 13 CMC firings in CY 2011 I wonder if we can beat the mark in CY 2012? I hope not."

It has been made crystal clear to every CPO, from the MCPON himself, that if you are a CPO and you make a fool of yourself and of the Navy, he will post you ass on the front page of the Navy Enquier. I have no objects to how every one of these former CPO's have outed because it does bring credibility back to the CPO Mess. We are held accountable.

2/13/2012 12:03 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3rd females chop?

Please, elaborate!

2/13/2012 5:11 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So what *did* the middie look like?"

From behind, they all look the same! - DD

2/13/2012 6:21 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this midshipman were not in the Navy, I'd bet she would be collecting dollars from her panties each night. Being in one of the Navy officer programs does not make these people holier-than-thou. It just gives them an opportunity that others do not get. Too bad the NAVCAD Appt was wasted on her, and not some other hard-charger. As for the ETCM...good job ruining your career, family, and tarnishing the Navy and submarine force. A COB from my former boat and crew too! I am glad you were not in MY Chiefs quarters when I was there!

2/13/2012 7:28 AM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

Christ, I haven't seen soap opera drama shit like this since I was on the tender.

And believe me, there was some AWESOME stuff going on there back in the day. Not much of it acceptable, but it still went on--the most famous example was a frocked CPO who was banging one of his FN strikers. They got caught, he got busted back to PO2 and ADSEPed, she divorced his ass and nailed him for every dime he had.

Don't doubt for a second that the same shit ain't going on with DD.

2/13/2012 8:43 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And so it begins. What did they (CNO, SECNAV, and every other person for diversity) think was going to happen?..."

Not being completely unintelligent, they undoubtedly thought that there'd be a lot more hetero sex in the Navy, some of it very prejudicial to good order and discipline.

But their political-religion beliefs overruled their common sense.

There really is a great definition for "stupid" that applies to both intelligent and unintelligent people in the phrase 'TSSBP'.

Stupid: Defn - Having the character of being unwittingly self-defeating.

As with individuals, what we're witnessing is an entire class of people who are falling into the "P" part of TSSBP.

It's 2012, folks. "VOTE"

2/13/2012 10:48 AM

 
Anonymous Jay the Nuk said...

So I know who to "vote" for, which of the guys still running is a submariner?

2/13/2012 10:58 AM

 
Anonymous Mark MM1/SS said...

Well FWIW (not much IMO), according to "The Prophet Joseph Smith" - the original Mormons emigrated from the Levant to North America via ancient primitive submarine...

2/13/2012 11:22 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Pig boats"...funny name, that.

Sorta like that guy who lost his Johnson and had the last name "Bobbitt."

2/13/2012 11:27 AM

 
Blogger Harold said...

"I'm only trying to point out that there are many posts, including yours (to a milder degree) that have a sick, misogynistic streak that is all too common in out community."

Misogynistic means women haters. What I see here are a bunch of women LOVERS, albeit not always in a PC format- they don't always have to be on pedestals.

The kitchen table or living room floor work just fine...

2/13/2012 2:37 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just goes to show, you can't fix stupid.

2/13/2012 3:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Harold - this will apparently be news to you, but "misogynist" is not synonymous with "fag".

2/13/2012 3:16 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, if it were not for the pussy, what would be the reason for keeping the rest of the woman? (Hint: There is no answer)

Dirty Dave was already sporting a few ex-wives...probably working on another right now...then again maybe not. She might keep him because at least he keeps his E-8 retirement pay.

As for hating women?...submariners love women (well, except for the few fags onboard) and treat them with the respect they have for themselves. Just is that some women like it dirtier than others. That's ok and when you need a hole to drain yourself, they fill the billet. After all, everyone needs to feed.

2/13/2012 5:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As we can easily see from the above comment (like we needed yet another example?), the submarine force is the last place to look for men of honor.

As for DD getting off nearly scot-free, what exactly would they charge his with...being a submariner? Just think for a moment how that pot calling a kettle 'black' situation could work out if taken to the mat. Know many senior submarine officers that are lily white on that front? I didn't think so...

2/13/2012 5:46 PM

 
Blogger Harold said...

"@Harold - this will apparently be news to you, but "misogynist" is not synonymous with "fag"."

??????????????????
Where did "fags" come in?

None of the male homosexuals I know hate women. They simply don't fall in love with them or use them as sex partners.

I don't know what you read, but it obviously wasn't what I wrote...

2/13/2012 8:07 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Used to be once upon a time that being divorced once raised suspicions, but didn't necessarily mean anything. Being married and divorced multiple times was evidence of instability or bad judgement, or both, and would stop a career dead. Personal conduct does reflect on professional conduct.

And it may not always be visible to observers above. People below will be the ones suffering.

Maybe its time to bring that idea back.

This anonymous note is brought to you by someone who worked beneath multiply divorced seniors several times- and every one of them was a self-absorbed prick. And people beneath them suffered for it.

2/13/2012 8:15 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dirty Dave was already sporting a few ex-wives...probably working on another right now...then again maybe not. She might keep him because at least he keeps his E-8 retirement pay."

And if they've been married more than 5 years, doesn't the ex-spouse protection act ensure she gets half? And he has to sign for SBP if she says so?

2/13/2012 8:18 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And if they've been married more than 5 years, doesn't the ex-spouse protection act ensure she gets half? And he has to sign for SBP if she says so?"

Not sure if he made it to 5 years with any of them...but he sure has a lot of kids.

Men of honor...that's funny! Real funny considering our profession was considered ungentlemanly and unfair. We have Sailors right now, underwater, ready to turn the planet into a wasteland or spying on other countries. I could less whether they have rough sex or not.

Remember, at 400' there is no God, only a well-trained crew. Having them go through pussification will not make them any better.

2/13/2012 8:56 PM

 
Anonymous SparkyWT said...

10 years for spousal benefits; 9 years and 364 days is a deal breaker.


There are many types of women; some are keepers, some are not. Some men are adept at spotting the weaker members of the female population and exploiting thier "issues". Some women are skilled in exactly the same traits.
Been that way for millenia and no general order, SECNAVINST, or DoD letter will change that.
Get real and use your common sense. Most men like pussy and most women like dick. Put them in close contact and let the fun begin.
Now this retired submariner will head out to the convention and see if some woman would like his dick.
.

2/13/2012 9:54 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Humor time- cut and pasted- but it is somewhat related to all this stuff-

By the time a Marine pulled into a little town, every hotel room was taken. ”You’ve got to have a room somewhere,” he pleaded. ”Or just a bed, I don’t care where.” ”Well, I do have a double room with one occupant, a Navy guy,” admitted the manager, ”and he might be glad to split the cost. But to tell you the truth, he snores so loudly that people in adjoining rooms have complained in the past. I’m not sure it’d be worth it to you.” ”No problem,” the tired Marine assured him. ”I’ll take it.”
The next morning the Marine came down to breakfast bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. ”How’d you sleep?” asked the manager. ”Never better.” The manager was impressed. ”No problem with the other guy snoring, then?” ”Nope, I shut him up in no time,” said the Marine. ”How’d you manage that?” asked the manager.
”He was already in bed, snoring away, when I came in the room,” the Marine explained. ”I went over, gave him a kiss on the cheek, said, ‘Goodnight, beautiful,’ and he sat up all night watching me.”

2/14/2012 12:37 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Having them go through pussification will not make them any better."

If you haven't noticed...it's too late.

2/14/2012 6:42 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my. This gives a whole new meaning to the 1MC annoncement, "Commence a low pressure blow..."

2/14/2012 8:32 AM

 
Anonymous Jay the Nuk said...

Or how about "Rack burn", as in "Man, you got a bad case of rack burn going!!!".

2/14/2012 8:57 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man this is funny and sad in the same breath. Funny in the fact he is referred to as "Dirty Dave". I now understand why he earned that nickname.

The sad part is another CPO screwing it up for the rest of us.

What is it with Bangor. Everytime you turn around they (Boomer fill in any name) end up in Navy Crimes for Child Porn, Banging a Officer or some type of inappropriate relationship, and a DUI. I wonder if its something in the water you get stationed there and instantaneously become dumb as a rock.

My favorite post so far is
"including finding a evidence of him traveling to Annapolis and buying her a plane ticket to SEATAC...on the dreaded Govt Fucking Travel Card."

Sorry but if this true what does this about the intelligence of our senior enlisted leadership. LOLOL Man we are SOOOOOOOO SCREWED!!!!!!!

2/14/2012 8:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right. And if you, peronsally, were pounding a 20 yr-old female middie...which head would you be using, and how smart would you be at that point in time?

Not excusing the chief's behavior. I expect bad behavior under these kind of circumstances...as our national leaders should have.

With women on submarines, a complete moron could have called how this was all going to play out. This is more than a failure of "E-9" leadership.

2/14/2012 8:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As someone who has retired from the Submarine Force and gone on to a great career in Aerospace all I can say is that senior Navy leadership would last 2 minutes in a world where you actually have to produce results. I remember Greenert when he was XO on the Michigan. Even then the scuttlebutt was that he was going all the way. Ask him about when his troops gave a tour to Seka on the Honu and also wonder why him why he is so effeminate. There is a story there.

2/14/2012 9:02 PM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

Newsflash, guys--this is nothing new. Skimmers and shore-duty pukes have been pulling this shit for DECADES.

The horror stories I could tell about the CPO community when I was recruiting would have you scratching your head wondering how we ever got anyone to join.

Anyone curious, Google "RADM Tony Watson CNRC" and prepare to be amazed. LOTS of people in Area 8 went away on that little fiasco.

2/15/2012 7:07 AM

 
Anonymous jay the nuk said...

So, I googled that, and didn't see anything on the first 3 pages that would seem to indicate the "issue" you want to share.

Provide a direct link.

2/15/2012 7:59 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Linky:

http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/2010/03/fy11-url-flag-list-released.html

at DTG 3/29/2010 8:07 AM

2/15/2012 8:21 AM

 
Anonymous jay the nuk said...

nhsparky,

Provide some juicy details!!!

2/15/2012 9:31 AM

 
Anonymous jay the nuk said...

nhsparky,

of CPO recruiting duty!!1 (left this part out)

2/15/2012 9:33 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@jay the so-called nuk: Nothing personal, but every time you open your yap I've noticed that the IQ level on the blog drops about 75 points.

Did you miss your short-bus ride to 'school' this morning? Again? When the big hand is on the '12', and the little hand is on the '8', you need to be standing on the corner.

Just sayin'.

2/15/2012 10:44 AM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-18593906.html

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-07-26/news/9607260211_1_navy-recruiter-anthony-watson-admiral

I don't have access and I'm not paying for the entire article. He and several other folks up at Area 8 had "relations" with a recruiter's wife.

In that time, just in my NRD, I saw CPO's who drove government vehicles WHILE DRUNK, with applicants or DEPpers in the car, putting "ringers" on deck, "dipping DEPpers", misappropriation of funds, misuse of government cards, property, etc.

Is that clear enough for you, Jay? Sorry if I didn't make it clear enough the last time--the CPO community made it difficult on the rest of us to do our jobs, which was recruiting folks.

2/15/2012 11:16 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I served with Tony in the early 70's and have to say I am surprised as hell!

I knew him only has a really hard charging straight arrow and basically a nice guy.

Old Chief from the dark ages
Jerry

2/15/2012 12:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I knew him only has a really hard charging straight arrow and basically a nice guy."

Gee, I wonder what could possibly have corrupted a young and promising naval officer...

2/15/2012 1:19 PM

 
Anonymous freelance academic writers said...

Very nice

2/15/2012 1:28 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tony Watson - pretty simple case. He was caught ON VIDEO getting a nobber in a garage parking lot by a recruiter's wife (heard it was ROTY but haven't confirmed that). He was a way early flag select based on a reconvening of the flag board for diversity issues. I have never met anyone sorry to see him go!

2/15/2012 3:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, man, that geting caught thing. Just soooo...inconvenient.

- former President Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton

2/15/2012 4:06 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As someone who has retired from the Submarine Force and gone on to a great career in Aerospace all I can say is that senior Navy leadership would last 2 minutes in a world where you actually have to produce results."

Your absolutely right. My wife worked on Wall St and I will tell the things that happen in the sub force would not fly.

Well and they (SUBPAC, SUBFOR, and MCPON) wonder why standards and integrity are an issue.

2/15/2012 7:04 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On balance, I think we see what 'we' look for.

Look for a bloated asshole 'chief' who's banging a middie, or flag sub officer that's videotaped in a parking lot getting a hummer from the wife of one of his own crew...and you'll find one.

Look for a hard charger, officer or enlisted, who's 'just' doing his ballbusting job on an SSN with back-to-back tours...and you'll find one.

The last one doesn't get people all excited...or help sell copies of Navy Crimes. But I wouldn't take the bet that there's more of the former than the latter.

2/15/2012 7:22 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also heard that Dirty Dave forged papers on several different occasions (TAD orders to visit middies box and bring in a couple of "bikini baristas" on effin family day).
This mofo should be made an example of PUBLICLY, instead of deciding whether this is a personal issue or not. Like it or not, the entire goat locker knew what was happening and did nothing. And to say the officers of this crew didn't know?
Fun fact - they were awarded the Battle E two years in a row!

2/15/2012 9:57 PM

 
Blogger Mike Mulligan said...

I was wondering, what is you guys opinion of the catholic bishop’s position on birth control in nuclear submarines?

2/16/2012 6:51 AM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

I dunno, Mike--but as a Catholic, I'm all for retroactive abortion in your case.

And for the record, the incident that took down RADM Watson took down several others, including my CR at the time. The story of how she became a recruiter's wife is, to say the least, more than a bit despicable (think applicant permanently DQ'ed so he could start dating her.)

2/16/2012 7:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Served under Tony "W" when he was CO of SSN 699. Not surprised what happened. Did not like his management style or things he would do to pump th ecrew up. Had to watch the crew morale go down when the real truth came out about things he would tell them.

2/16/2012 10:49 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a pattern to these news stories?

1. February 2010 - Ban on Women on Submarines Ends
2. December 2011 - Navy Forced To Buy Biofuels with the Agriculture
Department to purchase hundreds of thousands of gallons ofalternative biofuel in place of standard JP-5 fuel for Navy aircraft — the biggest federal purchase of biofuel ever at prices higher than JP-5
3. February 2012 - Ban on women lifted for about 1% of military jobs
4. February 2012 - Navy Announces USS Gabrielle Giffords
5. Yesterday - Obama weighing steep nuclear-arms cuts
AP) WASHINGTON – The Obama administration is weighing options
for sharp new cuts to the U.S. nuclear force, including a reduction of up to 80 percent in the number of deployed weapons, The Associated Press has learned.

When do you think the slogan will be changed from American's Navy:
'A Global Force for Good' to American's Navy: 'Whenever, Wherever, and Whatever, Just Because'?

2/16/2012 12:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to anonymous at 2/12/2012 9:55 AM
First of all, administrative actions don't happen over night so many Sailors are sent there waiting reassignment, while on Limited Duty, awaiting arrival of their assigned ship, awaiting discipline and for a myriad of other reasons. Secondly, you are way out of line on so may fronts it's intolerable. That ANAV happens to be one of the best Chief's (Senior Chief retired now in this case) that I had the pleasure and privilege to serve with during my 22 year career. Part of the problem with the current state of affairs (no pun intended) is the "zero defect mentality." Stuff get's hidden so when that "bright shining star" that gets put in certain high visibility positions and the true tarnish starts to show it's a "surprise." B.S. to that! I never hid my faults and learned to be a significantly better Chief from the lessons I learned. This COB's reputation was well known. As far as you making disparaging remarks about others who you either don't know or don't have a clue about, YOU are the brown stain the Quarter's had to deal with causing problems for the community as a whole; spewing flawed opinions out your cock-holster without having a clue as to what you are talking about! Chiefs like this ANAV you want to talk smack about saved more Sailors who had a career hiccup and went on to be solid "core value leaders" from his taking a few minutes, hours or days with them than some quarters were able to produce from entire crews. He mentored, squared away, led, and kicked in the ass more Sailors during his (your phrase) "walk of shame" than most commands did as a whole because instead of hiding out in some do nothing billet for his last tour he was assigned to take care of all the kids from whose own commands weren't willing and didn't have the fortitude to spend a few minutes with to figure out how to lead that Sailor to become productive. By the way, in case you didn’t know it and it shows that you don’t, the Chief’s job is to deal with earth sacks like you and make a productive member of society out of what sometimes looks like a rusted, broken down, useless pile of crap. That Senior Chief turned so many boats' proclaimed "P.O.S.s" into bright shining stars during his tour there that boot camp had a hard time matching his through-put. He also was able to send more genuine earth-sacks packing that should have been weeded out in boot camp and A-school than most COs would ever have because they were too worried about the "political appearance" of getting rid of the P.O.S. instead of applying those Core Values and doing the right thing for the Navy, the ship and the crew because of the potential negative effect it would have on their career. He took care of all the crap that the Fleet Sailors weren’t willing to do their job with and lead more Sailors, good, bad and indifferent than an entire Squadron of COs cared to take care of. Shut your pie hole and crawl back under your rock, go hide while the rest of us clean up your mess and just in general find some way to fall off the planet; the world will be a better place without your malicious gossip and whining persona. Even this guy who is supposed to be the subject of this thread is more of a positive impact than ilk such as yourself.
I'll put a basic name in here and if you know me feel free to get in touch should you need further counseling.
S.S.-CPO, USN Retired

2/16/2012 12:57 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear the admiral list is making the rounds - looks like the submarine force only got three this year

2/16/2012 7:03 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S.S.,

If Dirty Dave is your mentor, then I am glad you are retired. Obviously you were not there at CSG-9 when he went to Captain's Mast in the 90's? Most recently, his misappropriation of government funds, disobeying rules and regulations, lying, conduct unbecoming, and last but not least, having sex with a midshipman while underway.

Yep, that's who I want representing my Navy. By the way, not even Dirty Dave was brave enough walk the halls of the "walk of shame".

What a display of Honor, Courage, Commitment.

2/16/2012 7:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think he was talking about the 711 Anav

2/16/2012 7:16 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW S.S.!! I noticed you did not gag once while you were blowing this guy! BZ...its just a real shame your not still in to enjoy being able to serve openly.
I am dumbfounded that you really believe the BS you are selling. I do not care what great things he did to salvage your miserable excuse of a career, but I can only assume that you condone this sort of behavior. By your logic, we would never need a prision because of a few good deeds performed by a convict in his/her past.
Final thought...how dare you offer to counsel anyone on active duty! I noticed you did not say "retired SCPO or COB" so I can deduct how successful your career was. Those of us still on active duty and wearing stars gladly send him packing to join you in CIVLANT.

2/16/2012 8:08 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder what PO Ashley's family thinks of the super ANAV mentioned by S.S. Can't ask Ashley because he is DEAD! I don't care how many second chance Sailors he mentored or how many dirtbags he helped depart. Lots of good people were effed up by that collision and another isn't with us as a direct result. I would rather have a good ANAV that kept me safe than one of 'the best Chiefs ever' whose boat hit a mountain...

BTW...
It is commonplace for the current senior screwup to help babysit the rest of the screw-ups, psych drops, & broken folk at NSSC. Pearl keeps I-div and X-div apart becausethe disgruntled guys were affecting the nubs waiting for their boat to pull in with their poison.

I am glad DD will be retired soon too.

2/16/2012 8:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hang on kids...we are mixing apples and oranges. ANAV on 711 was not what S.S. was talking about. He was talking about back when Dirty Dave did one of his ANAV tours. DD was ANAV on PEN and SWF.

2/16/2012 8:49 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See what you started here Russ? lol

2/16/2012 8:50 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"SS" you left off the other letters so we can identify you. Is it "A_ _ CLOWN KHAKI PANTS?" If SCPO Core Values would have used the procedure like a good nub we would not have dead Sailors and a ruined boat. I’m so glad you never hid your flaws and how much of a shining star in the CPO community you were. Way to go Mr. E-7! As for DD he got what he deserved. And I hope a freakin witch hunt is going on right now to point the finger at who knew what and when. Everyone who knew something and failed to report it should get bent. So glad the likes of you are out of MY NAVY! One dirt-bag khaki gone so many more to go.

2/16/2012 9:04 PM

 
Anonymous mark/MM1(ss) said...

I thought the 711 tragedy was largely due to Big Navy not updating it's charts properly - that and the skipper charging through an area where there were apparently some questions about chart quality at a flank bell. Please correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure in this crowd, it won't be long. On that subject, way to go to the horse's asses who didn't bother to check into which ANAV was referred to, and assumed it was Dirty Dave.

2/16/2012 9:16 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MM1- Shut up and push. Speak not of things you have no knowledge on. Read the incident report rather than suffer from diarrhea of the mouth. Procedural compliance was at the root of the grounding. Specifically, failure to compare all charts in the area of intended operations for hazards to navigation. So, report status of your small valve maintenance.

2/16/2012 11:23 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:23?
So, when the anomaly is 10 or 15 miles away from the actual on the area chart how does that fit in? ASS CLOWN?
Joel, you've accumulated a bunch of ass clowns here, it's time you started a circus my friend. Can I offer ideas on the suits?


hagar,
BTDT, sat the investigation.

2/17/2012 2:08 AM

 
Blogger SJV said...

Maybe if ya'll would just stay on point? COB porking middie underway is just wrong, but probably has no real impact on what kind of a chief he was. Sure would make me look twice at his judgement, though, and it sounds like he had a track record of problems. But somehow managed to make COB? Doesn't this show there's an issue with how we promote and select senior enlisted leaders? These guys are the bedrock of our force, so much so that we're blaming one for causing a grounding? (were there any officers onboard???) Trust but verify, folks. And Mr. Windbag Anon@12:57 - the point is that if someone had intervened earlier in this guys career and set HIM on the right track he'd probably be a much better chief. It's when the locker and the zeros ignore the signs of this kind of crap that guys think they can get away with more and more, and then turn into a festering sore that eventually erupts and....TSSBP.

2/17/2012 2:09 AM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

SJV--do not concur. DD porking middies underway gives a REAL GOOD IMPRESSION of the kind of leader and person he was. Color me unimpressed. One, "Aw shit," ten thousand attaboys, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Enviable example are words I seem to recall hearing before somewhere. When was that concept abandoned? Add up all the shit that he'd done or is accused of doing, and I'm frankly surprised he's not in the cell next to Manning at Leavenworth.

I don't care how many people he "mentored". What is the net effect going to be? What will he, and by extension, the CPO communities he served in, be remembered for? I saw too much of the Khaki Mafia covering up for the fuckups of others within their community, but they would hammer the dog fuck out of a blueshirt who did something similar, or even less severe. Hypocrisy much, goat locker?

To quote the South Park/et al line, "That's some seriously fucked up shit right there."

2/17/2012 7:22 AM

 
Anonymous mark mm1/ss said...

Anon @1123 - golly, thanks for schooling this poor knuckle-dragging ELT. I thought I was reasonably civil in inviting correction. Go fuck yourself.

2/17/2012 9:59 AM

 
Anonymous Dardar the Submarian said...

Holy shit! I am glad they are getting rid of the last fuck up in the Navy. That will make everything good, now.

Face it, everyone is a fuck up, to some degree. Just because someone is really stinky doesn't mean your shit doesn't stink.

Yes, D.D. has to go, but if you think submarines will be better now, you need to look in your goat lockers and get a Draeger tube for methane.

Oh, and Anonymous@2/16/2012 8:08 PM - retirees have earned a place in this world to "dare offer to counsel anyone on active duty" because nothing has changed in the Navy in 40 years. There may be leaner times, or fatter times, but the bullshit will never change. That include self-important, Holier-Than-thou assholes, such as yourself. Bust S.S's ass all you want, but leave the active duty card in your fucking wallet.

Also, just because you are wearing stars, just means there are some star shaped hickies on asses, somewhere, with your embedded DNA - career boy!

2/17/2012 10:41 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This thread has come back around full circle with the dicussion of the San Fran grounding. I have a picture of her on the blocks afterwards on my desktop as a reminder of what the bottom line is. WE ARE IN AN INHERANTLY(sp)DANGEROUS BUSINESS! I don't want a douchebag on watch whether its a male, female, an evangelist or a monger that runs the streets. We get tied up in knots over females, adulterers,"creeping nucism" and officer kiss ass so much I think we sometimes lose perspective. Our job is to get the boat to sea and keep it there.

Off the soap box!
panamared

A cold frosty to Hagar! but for the grace of god there go I. Been through that area at a flank bell several times.

2/17/2012 10:44 AM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

dardar--nothing has changed in the Navy in 40 years.

As a wise old Chief told me, "The Navy is an 18th Century organization being dragged kicking and screaming into the 19th."

2/17/2012 10:55 AM

 
Anonymous Dardar the Submarian said...

nhsparky - I can only vouch for the last 35 - 40 years.

Thanks for the saying, though. I will keep that one tucked away for future use. Truer words have never been uttered.

2/17/2012 11:14 AM

 
Blogger Brad said...

This is one awesome blog.

Here we have Dirty Dave gettin' his cum-upins publicly, Wardroomers airing their dirty laundry, ELT's one-upping coners about naviagation incidents with said coners taking offense (imagine?) and said ELT THEN getting his point of contention confimred by Hagar the Horrible who lived through it.

Good stuff.

AND, to top it off Hagar waxing eloquent about ASS CLOWNS... Again I say, "Good stuff".

2/17/2012 3:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just 'fired' another sub CO. Not DFC'd but his change of command was 'moved up'.

2/17/2012 4:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is going to find all DD Sailors that he mentored in the last 15 years. As one of you said, his shit didn't stink. Well, I'm here to tell you that his shit was pretty bad for the last 15 years, and he found a way to convince all of us that he was ready to move up. There was no surprise that DD got in trouble, so who in the fuck pushed this guy to be fucking COB! I hate to tell you guys, but whoever participated on his COB board should be hang for stupidity and derelection of duties - for selecting a dirty bastard to lead Sailors. What the fuck is going on? The system doesn't work.

2/17/2012 4:50 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whose change of command was 'moved up'?

2/17/2012 5:10 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Navy finally admitted that
724G CO was fired. Bet he still makes O-6 since they held the info until the O-6 was finished.

Here is the Navy Slimes link:

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/02/navy-submarine-wyoming-co-hernandez-fired-021712/

2/17/2012 5:28 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mmmmmm

A golden cob of corn from Nebraska cooked over an open fire, with some Omaha beef.....

2/18/2012 6:20 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, the Navy was forced to come out an admit something happened (CO firing) that it was trying to keep on the down low. Why? Because of this blog!

Big Navy hates this blog but reliously reads it to get some of the latest scoop on the street. Sailors have been warned not to post on here using real names. Media (Navy Times) uses the blog as a stepping stone for stories.

Well done Joel for bringing it to the "man". Imagine if something like this had been available in the 80's during the heyday of the Cold War?

Nobody gets submarine news on the street faster than Joel and his blog commenters. Even the old fogey's over at Rontini's BBS can't keep up!

TSSBP!

2/18/2012 9:15 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hay anon @2/17 5:28pm - you have a basic misunderstanding of how the process works. Even though the board adjourned before the news became public, there is a lengthy review of the board results (typically on the order of 3 months). PERS8 will flag the record due to the pending investigation. At a minimum, he will be required to "show cause" as to why he should be promoted (assuming he was selected by the board). Or they can just pull him from the list outright. Either way, he most likely will not promote to O-6.

2/18/2012 9:36 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 9:36am. I know exactly how the system works. Since there was no DFC, there will be no Pers-8 notification. Admirals mast in an administrative matter and no notification needs to be sent to Pers. Even if a punitive letter is given, the submarine force can delay submitting that until the board results have passed CNP and JAG. No DFC = No show cause. They can't pull him from the list unless there is punitive punishment that actually makes it to NPC. I think you have too much "faith in the system."

2/18/2012 12:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're wrong. PERS8 review goes way beyond solely what's "in the record."

2/18/2012 1:09 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When are leaders fail us, they betray us. Dave Turley betrayed the trust and confidence that was placed upon him. When men are put in that position of special trust we too often look at the best qualities in them, not nitpick the imperfections. When they fail us, they incriminate the whole lot. Every Chief and every COB will carry this stain of betrayal, all because Dave Turley behaved as if he were above the rules.
I remember that during my initiation I was supposed to learn about humility by going through humiliating acts and taunts. I don’t agree with the methods used then, but the message is important. Maybe needs to be discussed more in both the CPO quarters and the wardroom: Humility. Because when our leaders fail spectacularly, a root cause is a lack of humility. They are too proud to fail, too pompous to follow the rules. They are vain and believe their own BS.
You are not chosen to be a COB, out of the blue and it is not in one’s normal career path. You have to pursue it. You work to prove yourself worthy, and some pretty good chiefs decide to never step up to the challenge, and if your performance isn’t worthy you aren’t going to become one. Want to be a COB? Then step up and take your turn in the arena. You get the title, the badge, your own parking spot, $150 bucks a month and the weight of the whole command. You will be judged on its success and failures. Every flaw you have will be on display. I did not know Dave Turley, I am disgusted by his actions and his failures should be held up as a warning to all that we strive to live up to an uncompromising code of conduct every day and if not you will be held accountable. But, he stepped up, our sin was that we trusted him. The Midshipman wasn’t the only one screwed on Nebraska.

2/18/2012 3:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"he stepped up." If you knew David Turley, he didn't step up. He did what alot of other E-9's do. They want the star and the rewards that come with it. They want the respect that 2 stars buys them. They qualify COB to get promoted and I have heard them say it. Not all Master Chiefs are like this but from my 27 years of experience I say quite a few are. It's not thier fault, it's the Navy's. The Navy makes it easy to advance if you put the checks in the proper boxes. If you know how to do that, the sky is the limit. The rules are simple: Do something for the command, community, your department and your division. Pass the PRT's and put fancy numbers in your evals. Then wala! your an E-9 before your 15-18 year mark. You don't have to give a shit about anyone, just make it look like you do. Make sure your fitrep reads like Jesus Christ Superstar and your done. Oh and kissing some ass while not looking like you are works well too. You can argue all you want but you know it's true.

2/18/2012 3:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 2/18 1:09PM
I guess we'll just have to wait to see when the list comes out.

2/18/2012 4:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe he served under my last COB (1988), who stated many times when abusing his power under color of authority

"What are they going to do, keep me from making E-10"

PW

2/18/2012 5:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just pray at night that the folks entrusted to me don't think that I have done this to check the box, or win rewards. Like I said before I didn't know Dave Turley, I knew nothing of the process he followed to be a COB. I think, in regards to his actions, he was vain, and that he betrayed us, his fellow CPO's, his fellow submariners, his fellow COBs, his skipper.

Imagine what he has put his Skipper through.....

I stand by the rest of my remarks about having to step up. EVERYONE who succeeds in the Navy did so because someone recognized their talents and believed in their ability to grow.

2/18/2012 11:02 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My 9th grade English teacher was a Korean War carrier pilot. (HS grad 1973) Used to tell those of us who were interested that the WORST thing the Navy ever did was go along with the AF and establish
E8/9. Said before that the Chiefs community was united; once you were Chief, seniority was the only thing that mattered, and they all tended to work together to strengthen the ones that were weak.

Since then, they've been competing for promotion. One way to look good is to make someone else look bad. IOW, a clique who gets along well decides who is going to be the shit screen, and everything bad is blamed on him. And if you've been in long enough to call it a career rather then a tour, don't tell me you haven't seen it.

During my carer, I saw a number of Chiefs who were no better than any other, but also no worse, get relieved for inane reasons. Because ALL his weaknesses were always pointed out to the command. By his fellow loyal Chief brotherhood. Someone else making the same, or worse, mistakes wold be ignored. Becasue he fit in and got along with everyone after hours over a few (too many usually) brews.

2/20/2012 2:19 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“He did what alot of other E-9's do. They want the star and the rewards that come with it. They want the respect that 2 stars buys them. They qualify COB to get promoted and I have heard them say it.”
It’s a sad state when we are this point. Does anyone else agree? The problem is the Navy won’t make Master Chiefs unless you’re a COB. So my next question is how the hell this helps keep the knowledge within a rating. Take Nav ET's for example everyone could become a COB left and so now there is a huge hole for A-Nav's. And because of this no ET’s can become a COB. Who the hell comes up with these ideas (I know the answer it’s rhetorical)? There are Chiefs (CPO, SCPO, and MCPO) that should NOT be a COB. It is an awesome responsibility to be the Chief of the Boat. So instead we will continue to erode the skills in the rate and loose guys that can teach how fix the equipment and keep the boat functioning in adverse conditions. They get out and move on. The problem is Mafia (your smart fill in a name) are so damn pretentious you have to kiss the ring for the nod. As we all know the sea is an unforgiving place.
As for “Dirty Dave” he earned that name and this isn’t the first time he screwed up. It’s just the first time the dirty laundry was aired out in the open for the masses. The question is what is the Navy going to do with him? The Submarine Force as whole went it talks about accountability it is a huge joke. In fact I’m laughing as I write because of the Sailors with multiple DUI’s or the Sailor should have been DFC’d or NEC removed but we put him on a another boat or keep them in the Navy because we thought the division could fix him. As so we pass the buck.
Well I hope I can survive my sea tour because between the 1120’s and the Mafia the only things I can depend on are my Magic 8 Ball (Shake vigorously for the best answer), A-Gangers are smartest submariners, ST’s/FT’s are worthless, a JO’s best use is as a DC Plug, and Nukes are really dumb(how do you read the procedure and still cause a critique LOL).

2/21/2012 3:20 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANON 2/21/2012 3:20 AM

Well I hope I can survive my sea tour because between the 1120’s and the Mafia the only things I can depend on are my Magic 8 Ball (Shake vigorously for the best answer), A-Gangers are smartest submariners, ST’s/FT’s are worthless, a JO’s best use is as a DC Plug, and Nukes are really dumb(how do you read the procedure and still cause a critique LOL).

I hope you survive your sea tour too! Since we are counting on you to go out and do the hard job! If you call your plan "hope", good luck. As for the comments that have been directed towards the Master Chief community, it always seems like a good idea to bash a community that people are not part of. Some of the issues that are brought up are issues that have bothered the non-hackers and the career complainers because of their inability to take the next leadership step. I am tired of hearing from E-7s and E-8s who want to be paid for E-9, but stay in their rating community so they can stand a three section rotation watch with no stress. DD has set the CHIEF community back ages, but instead of complaining and talking about how you would have done it differently, you should remove your piss cutter and keep your mouth shut and slip back into ranks like you have done in the past. Leave the leadership challenges to the Chiefs!

2/21/2012 4:11 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANON 2/21/2012 3:20 AM

Well I hope I can survive my sea tour because between the 1120’s and the Mafia the only things I can depend on are my Magic 8 Ball (Shake vigorously for the best answer), A-Gangers are smartest submariners, ST’s/FT’s are worthless, a JO’s best use is as a DC Plug, and Nukes are really dumb(how do you read the procedure and still cause a critique LOL).

I hope you survive your sea tour too! Since we are counting on you to go out and do the hard job! If you call your plan "hope", good luck. As for the comments that have been directed towards the Master Chief community, it always seems like a good idea to bash a community that people are not part of. Some of the issues that are brought up are issues that have bothered the non-hackers and the career complainers because of their inability to take the next leadership step. I am tired of hearing from E-7s and E-8s who want to be paid for E-9, but stay in their rating community so they can stand a three section rotation watch with no stress. DD has set the CHIEF community back ages, but instead of complaining and talking about how you would have done it differently, you should remove your piss cutter and keep your mouth shut and slip back into ranks like you have done in the past. Leave the leadership challenges to the Chiefs!

2/21/2012 4:12 AM

 
Anonymous Really are U Serious!! said...

It was only a matter of time that DD's exploits would catch up with him. I knew him when he was a 3rd class nub on the "ustafish" prior to him being a Turd in khaki's. He made his way up the ranks the hard way. Under the CO's desk. This guy was always smoozing with the higher ups to get ahead. He was a dirtbag then. Everybody has their own agenda. The guy that was praising him earlier was probably one the guys ignoring the exploits of this E-9 just to make E-7. I dont feel sorry for either of these idiots just sorry for the Middie that got taken advantage of and all of the EX-wifes and children that got neglected by a selfserving asshole. Just should have happen earlier than later. Good ridinace!!! Just hope his latest wife can benifit from the divorce.

2/21/2012 10:02 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for the comments that have been directed towards the Master Chief community, it always seems like a good idea to bash a community that people are not part of. Some of the issues that are brought up are issues that have bothered the non-hackers and the career complainers because of their inability to take the next leadership step. I am tired of hearing from E-7s and E-8s who want to be paid for E-9, but stay in their rating community so they can stand a three section rotation watch with no stress. DD has set the CHIEF community back ages, but instead of complaining and talking about how you would have done it differently, you should remove your piss cutter and keep your mouth shut and slip back into ranks like you have done in the past. Leave the leadership challenges to the Chiefs!

This has nothing to do whether someone being a Master Chief. Irt has to do with how do we let a guy that has history get into a position that he now done damage.
As for not understanding and bashing its not bashing. The issue is I had some awesome COB's and people like DD make it harder for the guys out there doing the right thing.

2/21/2012 12:32 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Leave the leadership challenges to the Chiefs!"
and what a fine job they are doing. I wonder just how many good 'ol boys gave DD the 'ol slap on the a$$ on his way to be COB with his history. Give me a break. Maybe a hard look is in order at the screening process.

2/23/2012 9:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth behind this story is simple. A female midshipmen, who was an early selectee to the submarine community, filmed MC Turley and herself having intercourse on board of the Nebraska during her summer cruise. They then proceeded to have intimate email conversations following her cruise, which caused suspicion with the Academy's Ward Hall. It was then discovered that she was maintaining an intimate relashionship with the Master Chief, and that the two had produced a sex tape while underway.

To sum it all up, the Navy has allowed women to serve in the submarine community, has retrofitted many of its submarines to accomodate women....and this is the result. In the short lived history that is female service aboard submarines, it has already been tarnished.

The kicker to this whole story is that the female was a Brigade Five-Striper (Upper Level Brigade Billet) and was also the leader of a Catholic Bible Study group! I kid you not!

Enjoy!

2/23/2012 1:35 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course, what you say is completely false. This sordid affair has nothing to do with assigning women to submarines. Female midshipmen have participated in cruises for years. I would wager that she is also not the first to have had sex during one - just the first to be stupid enough to tape it and carry on with the E-9 afterwards.

2/23/2012 5:16 PM

 
Anonymous NHSparky said...

two had produced a sex tape while underway.

God, I hope not. Do NOT want! Last thing the submarine community needs is a Kim Kardashian/Paris Hilton wannabe.

2/24/2012 10:15 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might as well drop her name. It's not like she is a minor. Then we can figure out if she was actually a sub selectee.

Don't kid yourself. She was a midshipman, and she knew better. She is equally as culpable.

2/25/2012 11:05 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, name drop... we need the name!

2/26/2012 9:31 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was in charge of the midshipmen while they were onboard?

2/26/2012 9:42 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Who was in charge of the midshipmen while they were onboard?"

Who do you think? They have orders to report aboard and they fall under the COC. Typically, especially for the length of time they were onboard, are assigned to divisions.

Dirty Dave, being in that "traid" of senior command, was most definately in her COC.

2/26/2012 9:57 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand, except for that "traid" thing. As long as the CO and XO can be exonerated. We don't need another good officer to be in the lime light?

2/26/2012 10:38 AM

 
Anonymous RADMAN said...

@ anon 2/23/2012 1:35 PM:

C'mon, you didn't event preface your post by writing "this is a no-shitter". I probably would have believed you if you had.

2/26/2012 6:39 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the COB generally just walked around and drank coffee, organized poker games, stood 8 section dive (poorly), and was ineffective.

That's what I remember from the COB on my boat.

Also, names please!

God I would love to see that porno. I bet it has great lines:

DD-God your so underway hot.
DD-Ooh, baby, you really do want to get out of field day!
DD- I love you future 4th ex-wife

2/26/2012 6:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I thought the COB generally just walked around and drank coffee, organized poker games, stood 8 section dive (poorly), and was ineffective.

I am sure DD walked around...standing Dive, thats how he got in trouble Diving...

Thats the billeted position from what I remember. Chief of the Bunk.

2/26/2012 6:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She was definetly ON his COC. Not in it!!!

2/26/2012 8:06 PM

 
Anonymous Jay the nuk said...

And NO, Jay the Nuk did not ask for names. But, I am enjoying the thread...

2/27/2012 10:59 AM

 
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3/04/2012 7:50 PM

 
Blogger Steve40th said...

Without reading this whole thing, what happened to the middy involved with Turley?

4/18/2012 4:50 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve,
She was dismissed from the Academy and may have to repay her "tuition", however I do not believe that decision has been made public.

4/23/2012 7:54 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry Steve,
She was dismissed from the Academy and may have to repay her "tuition", however I do not believe that decision has been made public.

Meaning not sure of the final decision if any has been made.

4/23/2012 8:05 PM

 
Blogger Steve40th said...

Its what I would expect the Navy to do. I do hope, in all fairness, that her demise is published. It sets the standard and maintains it.

4/23/2012 9:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What hasn't been posted is his deuch-bag of a boss at squadron who approved him being a COB knew about this crap weeks before it came out and did nothing.

5/06/2012 9:49 PM

 
Blogger Steve40th said...

@Anonymous, if this is true it will come out. The COB as relegated back to E8, and his Dolphins(SS) status removed and he was DNECd as a COB.

5/06/2012 9:55 PM

 
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5/11/2012 3:16 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.navytimes.com/prime/2012/07/PRIMEnavy-turley-cob-mid-hot-summer-cruise-071612/

7/16/2012 11:12 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/02/navy-top-enlisted-chief-of-the-boat-fired-submarine-nebraska-gold-crew-021012w/

7/16/2012 11:14 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No new news from the navy times article other than the freemason angle.

7/17/2012 6:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since the SECNAV told Turley to go home as an E7 with an OTH the Silence from the anti Master Chief 1120 community is deafening.

11/19/2012 8:05 PM

 

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