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Friday, July 20, 2012

Boomer Force Earns MUC

Everyone assigned to an SSBN or SSBN support role from July 2007 to January 2011 was awarded a Meritorious Unit Commendation today. From the COMSUBFOR blog, here's the award citation:
For meritorious service from 16 July 2007 to 28 January 2011. Commander, Task Force 134 and Commander, Task Force 144 (CTF134/144) excelled in support of United States Strategic Command’s flawless execution of its global mission of strategic deterrence. The Task Forces provided an essential leg to our nation’s strategic triad and were a key element of our deterrent mission. The deterrence mission executed by Task Force 134 and 144 during this period underpinned Department of Defense strategy and provided the backbone and foundation for our political leadership in execution of national security policy. Providing credibility to the deterrent force, Commander Task Force 134 and 144 demonstrated high standards in day-to-day operations, in exercises, in training, and every time they went to sea. By their truly distinctive achievements, unrelenting perseverance, and unfailing devotion to duty, the officers, enlisted personnel, and civilian employees of Commander Task Force 134 and Commander, Task Force 144 reflected credit upon themselves and upheld the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service.
The MUC as a unit award is generally considered to be comparable to a Bronze Star for individuals. Apparently, the boomer force has done as much for our nation's defense as Sub School and SUPSHIP Groton did earlier.

I don't think I'll hold my breath for the attack submarine force to be similarly rewarded. Even though I'm always happy to see Submariners get more chest candy, I can't help having the feeling that this is just more evidence of the "everyone gets a trophy!" mentality that's been sneaking into the Navy over the last couple of decades.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe I'll be skipping this topic. Standby for SSN outrage in 3...2...1...

7/20/2012 4:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF? I had to go on multiple spec ops where we weren't supposed to be for months at a time to get a MUC, NUC & PUC. Unfuckingbelievable.

7/20/2012 5:00 PM

Anonymous Ens Smiley said...

When Squadron 16 finished the move of the first boomers to Kings Bay, everyone in the squadron including subs, got a MUC. I left the boat before it was awarded and ran into my old XO, who told me I was out of uniform since I wasn't wearing my MUC. This was back in '86, so not the first time this has happened.

7/20/2012 5:30 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I made multiple spec ops where we weren't supposed to be for months at a time on two smoke boats and never got nothin.

finally got my MUC sailing as a CivMar with MSC during Iraq invasion. You should'a seen it; in the Med on USNS Arctic T-AOE 8, Carrier on port side, we're highlining bombs to them as they are launching aircraft strikes, I was fueling rig winch operator fueling a DD on our starboard side at the same time. Woohoooo, What a rush!! Man oh man I loved that shit!!


7/20/2012 5:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Won't hold your breath for the fast boats? I bet if you looked at how many fast boats received a MUC in the last.....let's say 10 years, and compared it to how many SSBN's got one, the difference would be staggering.

7/20/2012 5:48 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the near future, women submariners will be able to sport MUCs that SSN sailors with longer careers won't have "earned".

Gee, why is no one surprised?

7/20/2012 5:50 PM

Blogger Bubblehead said...

It looks to me like 100% of the SSBNs have a MUC in the last 10 years now.

7/20/2012 8:20 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We live in a society that values accolades more than achievement."

7/20/2012 8:30 PM

Blogger Dave in St. Louis said...

Well, when we got our MUC, we actually had to successfully launch missiles (down the range, mind you).

7/20/2012 8:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been hearing alot of "talk" from senior boomer fags, and it's all about low morale and having to justify to the baby boomer fags why they are staying out for full patrols when not alert. Imagine that?
If ya didn't earn a expeditionary for it, it wasn't fun.

7/20/2012 8:45 PM

Blogger SJV said...

Spout off about your Bronze Star equivalent in a VFW bar to a Marine who earned a real one and see what kind of a reaction you get. Since you boomers can join the VFW. What a crock of crap. Fast Boats always were, and always will be more hazardous duty, have a more relevant mission, and be more deserving of respect.

7/20/2012 8:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ain't NO slack in Fast Attack !!"

Couldn't resist........


7/20/2012 9:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

With all the close calls the boomers have had in the last four years, I guess the MUC is the new "Plays well with others" sticker.
If I see a boomer nub talking about how he "earned" that MUC, I will lose my mind. But I guess its the fault of the upper echelon that approved this award. Thanks for marginalizing the MUC.

7/20/2012 9:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talk about un-f-ing believable. You guys are submariners right? Two attack subs-7 spec ops, 2 SSBNs, 8 patrols. The MUC I recvd on my attack boat was awarded because the Battle Group Admiral submitted one for the battle group. NUC awarded for spec op. Attack boats get rewarded for good spec ops all the time. Some MUCs/NUCs. Most of these SSBNs have received nothing over 15-20 years of patrols. The USNA Dental clinic got a MUC for god sakes. Save your bitches for those clown awards instead of fellow submariners.
Once a decade is not unreasonable for those that actually go to sea. Othwise I should've been a damn dentist.

7/20/2012 9:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ANon 9:39 pm

Close calls for boomers? Yes a few minor ones, compared to Newport News, San Francisco, Hartford, etc. Really? You should study and know the force before you open your ignorant pie-hole.

7/20/2012 9:50 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have served on both 594/637 fast attacks and 726 boomers. I must commend 7/20 5:00PM for his PUC because except for the project boats they are extremely rare (Guardfish in 87 - and I know why, Flasher in ~70, don't know why). When I was at N77/87 no boat got a PUC.
Maybe this award is a dis on the USAF, cough, not doing their strategic duty.

7/20/2012 10:07 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heh! Gotta get that dyslexia looked at.
I read that as "We live in a society that values assholes more than achievement."

7/20/2012 10:13 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heh! Gotta get that dyslexia looked at!
I read that as "We live in a society that values assholes more than achievement."

7/20/2012 10:14 PM

Anonymous mark/MM1(ss) said...

Marginalized? Really? What about the two MUCs I've got as a yardbird since the MUC and NUC in 4 1/2 years on boats? Oh yeah - MUCs are awesome...

7/20/2012 11:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait, is the MUC the one with the yellow stipes in the middle or the open green? I have both and one has 3 stars on it and the other has 1 star.

7/21/2012 7:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WWWWWWAAAAAHHH!!!!!! Does anyone really remember what you did to get a MUC. "performed service of a character comparable to that which would merit the award of a Bronze Star Medal, or achievement of like caliber in a non-combat situation, to an individual." I have three and I only remember going to sea and doing my job exceptfor the one from SUBSCOL. STFU you crybabies!

7/21/2012 7:14 AM

Anonymous 4-Stop said...

Oh man, let's fight over who deserves a MUC, Really? How about the CO's that got bronze stars for OIF. Try comparing your BS with a sailor who actually faced the enemy and kicked ass for his Bronze Star.

Get a life.

7/21/2012 7:22 AM

Blogger Curt said...

It's all about the ORP .

7/21/2012 7:34 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"flawless execution" that earned them a MUC.


In boomer parlance, flawless execution means that your communications uptime while Alert was 100%.

I am expected to believe that 14 boats that made 119 Patrols all had 100% communications??


If true I stand in awe of an accomplishment that is deserving of much more than a mere MUC.

If not true then we are just cheapening the MUC.


7/21/2012 8:10 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the sub skippers that were fired during this period of time???

Did they contribute to the "flawless execution"?

7/21/2012 8:12 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I took my kid for a USNA visit in 2010 and the freshly minted ENS at the visitor center was wearing a MUC. I asked him if he was prior enlisted and he said "Uh no USNA got awarded it so we all got one". I must admit it tweaked me a little.

Oh and before y'all start talking about the Bronze Star, you might want to go look around and see the sort of crap they award it for in a combat zone, along with all the ones that matter. In my mind, a Bronze Star without the Combat "V" is just a NAM of different color.

7/21/2012 8:13 AM

Anonymous MUC NUC PUC said...

Using this criteria, every sub that spends at least 12 months in the shipyard and doesn't "Walk Away" from their responsibility, saving the taxpayers at least $440 million dollars should get a MUC!

Lets see....4 SSGN conversions, OKC, CHI, KEY, etc. These guys are getting it right!

7/21/2012 8:26 AM

Anonymous Cupojoe said...

I guess the problem is how you give unit awards to the many units that aren't at the tip of the spear. What do you do for a dental clinic, a recruiting station, a training command? They all fulfill important functions and are necessary in order for the Navy to move forward.

I don't know what the solution is, but I admit the standard for a MUC is pretty low. At least when I was in, NUCs were rare. My boat was the only one to receive one that year in SubPac (which was odd, since We sucked at inspections and squadron hated us).

Battle group subs always get more unit awards (My favorite: A whole battle group getting a Coast Guard Unit Citation with "Operational O")

I guess the only true reward is the simple knowledge of a job well done.

7/21/2012 8:33 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, so if you unit is extremely successful at accomplishing its "mission", you get a MUC. It doesn't matter what that "mission" is. Maybe what they need is a separate bucket for units with a "support" mission, as opposed to individuals in "support" billets in operational commands that are at the tip. I think the difference between a dental clinic in Goose Creek and a medical unit supporting warfighters in the desert is pretty clear.

7/21/2012 8:52 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My division is split half and half with boomer and fast boat guys. I can say, the level of knowledge, professionalism, and work ethic is not dependent on which class of boat guys come from. A shitbag on a fast boat is still a shitbag. A smart, hardworking boomer fag is 10 fold the sailor as a useless fastboat guy.

7/21/2012 10:03 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cant believe you get a MUC for doing the only thing that you are assigned to do. Oh and by the way, you are carrying around X number of missiles….. I would hope that the flawless execution of global strategic deterrence is the norm and not the exception. I hope boomers aren’t going to sea with low standards every time. Unless they fire a real missile, there is nothing that they will ever do to earn a MUC. 4kts to no where.

What a crock of shit.

I hate boomers. What a bunch of namby bambi bitches. I’ll probably get orders (against my will) to one next year.

7/21/2012 11:21 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember when Gen Chilton retired from Stratcom he gave every part of the nuclear triad a Joint Unit Comendation, except the SSBNs. Group 9 and 10 felt a bit upset and wrote an award for boomers. The dates line up with Chilton's time at Stratcom as well as the JUC award. Having worked hard for many years in the sub force its odd having this be my first unit award. I am not going to say I don't deserve it, but there have been many other things that did and never got recognized. Take it or leave it, it's a way of saying thanks for service.

7/21/2012 11:56 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Makalapa Dental Clinic has more unit awards than any serving SSBN.

7/21/2012 12:05 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"USNA got awarded it so we all got one." -Ensign

Including the women grads who will volunteer for/be assigned sub duty.

Both genders makes it fair, unless... promotions for one are elevated over the other!

7/21/2012 1:22 PM

Anonymous Veemann said...

I don't want to debate the merits of whether or not the SSBN force has earned a MUC (and more) for their invaluable contribution to deterrence during the Cold War, but what important thing has the SSBN force done between 2007 and 2011. I have a NUC and MUC in my shadow box for stuff we did back in the day on a fast attack, so I guess I am at a loss for what it takes these days to get MUC.

7/21/2012 1:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attend the USNA at the right time (see 7/21/2012 8:13 AM)

7/21/2012 2:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say what you will, but the mission of the boomer force is many times more valuable than its fast attack counterpart. Particularly in a post-Cold War world, the boomer mission provides the backbone of national policy, whereas the rest of the submarine fleet just goes underway so that their superiors can use these pleasure cruises as data points to justify continued funding. I'm not saying fast attack life is easy, I'm just saying that, regardless of quality of life, boomers provide a more realistic impact on national policy.

With the exception of a major war where fast attacks would be required to actually combat enemy fleets, the modern mission of the fast attack could be relegated to a satellite.

7/21/2012 4:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone have the number to Bangor PSD? I want to make sure they have my mailing address for my brand new MUC!

Dirty Dave
Former COB, USS Nebraska

PS. Do you think Midshipman on a middie cruise get one too?

7/21/2012 5:28 PM

Anonymous MUC NUC PUC said...

@ Anon 4:00PM:

Your ignorance of what SSNs do is astounding!!! Next time post as "Boomer Fag with a MUC"

Either shut your pie hole, or ask that you be allowed to attend a SSN mission debrief.

Both missions are essential to the nation. SSN missions are 24/7 excitement. Boomers are 70 days of watching the paint dry and field day....Hide with Pride

7/21/2012 5:33 PM

Anonymous k said...

"Maybe this award is a dis on the USAF, cough, not doing their strategic duty."

Yeah, that sound pretty reasonable for a contributing factor.

7/21/2012 6:48 PM

Anonymous k said...

"Particularly in a post-Cold War world, the boomer mission provides the backbone of national policy, whereas the rest of the submarine fleet just goes underway so that their superiors can use these pleasure cruises as data points to justify continued funding."

Ha, that's a good one.

Oh, wait, your serious. Let me laugh even harder.

(no really, kids, see this? that's some good trolling)

7/21/2012 6:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This MUC allows Boomer guys to earn their dolphins every day by stealing happiness from their whiny brothers on fast attacks. Nobody likes they guy making more money with less work, but not everybody bitches about it so publicly.

7/21/2012 9:11 PM

Blogger KellyJ said...

At least 1st boat boomer guys can now sport a whole row of ribbons; Good Conduct, MUC, and maybe a Battle E.
New days new times. In my time if you were E-5 and below transfering off the boat your getting A Squadron Letter or maybe a SubPAc/Lant letter if you were real hot. E-6s got the ADm letter or a NAM, Chiefs and DH would get Nams. The COB and XO could hope for a COM. COs got MSMs and occasionally a LOM if you had great ops or were on Parche. The end of service award was unheard of, just another end of tour at your retirement, assuming your command was on the end of tour/service COM arrived in the mail 4 months after I retired...and this was after 22 years, 4 fast boats, 1 two-year tour at a TRAFAC, and finishing up at a SUBRON (yeah, that was about 19 years of Sea Duty...the SUBRON being tender based was Sea Duty). Unit awards were few and far between, usually in how lucky you were that something new and cool happened on your SpecOp. If you even knew about it (often times you would transfer and the award would not follow you until an old shipmate tells you about it).
So yeah, if the Navy wants to start giving out awards like the Army and Airforce do then I say why not. At least when a Fast Boat sailor goes to a skimmer command (or worse a Joint Command) they won't be looking like a shlub who'sr done nothing rather than being the most experience guy in the room when it comes to Missions.

7/21/2012 10:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haters gonna hate.

7/21/2012 11:05 PM

Blogger cool_guy said...

Are all bubbleheads whiners who eat their own?

7/22/2012 12:53 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the National Defense Service Medal just for breathing your way through boot camp these days, though that's essentially what a MUC has become.

7/22/2012 6:21 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When does the Rainbow Ribbon for taking it up the pooper or marching in a "Gay" Pride parade in uniform come out? Gotta get 37 pieces of flair.

7/22/2012 6:29 AM

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7/22/2012 7:33 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ Kellyj, WOW I got 6 NAM’s and 2 COM’s and only did 10 years of sea duty. Who did you piss off? BTW I can give you mine if it makes you feel better, let me dig them out of my “I love me box” in the basement.

7/22/2012 7:34 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bronze Stars are given out like candy in OIF and Afghanistan. Unless that son bitch sports a "V" he probably did something akin to enduring a sea tour on a boomer, especially if this crowd is representative of who boomer sailors have to tolerate.

7/22/2012 7:36 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The award showed up in NDAWS two months ago. I wonder what took so long to get the citation out.

7/22/2012 8:27 AM

Blogger Henson said...

"Are all bubbleheads whiners who eat their own?"


7/22/2012 8:54 AM

Anonymous QMC Ret/ANAV said...

I did 24 years and 24 patrols, no MUC. Personnally I could give a rats a$$ about a MUC or what a Fast Attack a-hole has to say. After you retire you will realize just how full of hot air you are. Saying that a Fast Boat is better then a boomer just shows your ignorance. Both boats do completly different missions. Why not start a blog comparing apples and oranges? idiots. I will gladly take my only MUC, place it in my shadow box right above my Gold Boomer pin and think about all the guys that are out there doing the job. For the guys who can't except the fact that all the boomers got a MUC, grow up, pull your pants up, turn your hat around and do your job. Quit being such a snipe. IF you want one for your boat, write it up and submit it. It is that simple.

7/22/2012 9:16 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gold Boomer Pin...Now that's something to be proud of!!!


So you only worked for 12 of your 24 years.

7/22/2012 10:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

To QMC Asshat, I don't think anyone, well maybe some, is saying that fast boats are "better" than boomers. And of course everyone realizes the different missions. But what we are saying is that life on an SSN is way more arduous than on an SSBN. To think otherwise is delusional.

7/22/2012 10:25 AM

Anonymous QMC ret/ANAV said...

To Anon 10:25: Thank you for restating my point exactly. Good Job. To Anon 10:08: I am proud of my Gold Pin. It just means I was able to get paid more then you for less work. Haha.

7/22/2012 11:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all of the MUC winners, past and present, boomer and fast attack, you earned it and job well done. You will look back with great pride 20 years from now and realize how unique your role was for our nation's defense.

7/22/2012 11:11 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anyone have the number to Bangor PSD? I want to make sure they have my mailing address for my brand new MUC!

Dirty Dave
Former COB, USS Nebraska

PS. Do you think Midshipman on a middie cruise get one too?"

Dirty Dave,

She will not get a MUC. However, she did receive a CUM.

7/22/2012 6:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

She will not get a MUC. However, she did receive a CUM.

Quote of the day!!!

7/22/2012 6:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a NUC for going North on a fast boat!

Nana Nana Boo Boo

Fast Attack Tough!

7/22/2012 7:52 PM

Blogger KellyJ said...

Our favorite made-up award was for Battlegroup deployments.
The Fleet Unit Commendation with the Joint Operations Badge.

7/22/2012 8:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

the only thing we did on the 626B that I think would even approach consideration for any type of UC was a run we did in 83 VERY far North and east of normal patrol station. but of course we couldn't because then they would have to admit we were there. Didn't miss it don't want it did our job Bcause no one found out

EX boomer fag

7/22/2012 10:01 PM

Anonymous tom ssn 687 said...

I only made one northern run, 1981, but I had shipmates who made multiple northern runs and med runs, and only had one row of ribbons to show for it. Contrast this to what I saw in the reserves, e-4 skimmers with two or three rows of ribbons for going to the med. kind of like grade inflation where everyone gets a's or b's or little league, where everyone gets a trophy.

7/23/2012 7:37 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

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7/23/2012 9:21 AM

Anonymous David "Boomer" Wells said...

why the hate for boomer sailors? cuz they only go out on 90 day patrols? keeping out country safe!


7/23/2012 9:23 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

UNBELIEVABLE. Yardbird confesses to arson, under arrest. They should throw him back into the yard and let the other bubbas take care of him.

7/23/2012 9:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@David "Boomer" Wells

Dave, keep in mind this is the internet. Probably most of these anons were never in the Navy so don't pay too much attention to what a wannebe but never will be has to say.

You can pretty much tell who they are. They are the ones attacking real sailors, calling them asshats, etc.

7/23/2012 12:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never got worked up over stuff like that. It seems rather than do the work to check individual units to see if they merit an award, they would feel better and avoid a lot of paper hassle by spitting out a mass award.

7/23/2012 1:03 PM

Anonymous OM said...

This is pretty disgusting, because maybe one or two of these SSBNs/SSGNs might have actually earned this award. Now even the best boat is on the same level as the worst boat. This just confirms we've totally diminished the award process. So now what is the incentive for doing your best, what is the sense of having any more engineering exams, TREs, SMIs, etc.

7/24/2012 4:54 PM

Anonymous More Women On Submarines said...

I got a MUC, FUC, BJ, Off-Crew and my retirement pay! SSN fags got what...more underway time?

Dirty Dave

7/24/2012 7:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, every Boomer body gets one for being a warm body from 1970 onward?

And those from the 598 boat thru the last of the 640 class, get nothing?

Those days, one may recall, the Soviet's were improving at a rapid rate, and had a very keen interest in where we were.

As some may remember, the "Cold War" got quite warm at times. Not the kiddy cuise trips I imagine are today's fare.

7/25/2012 1:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In 1969 we got two on 610. The first was for a successful four missile launch FOT.

The second one was a secret award and I didn’t know about it until later. We unexpectedly had the opportunity to play SSN for a week at the start of patrol.

7/25/2012 1:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having served on SSBN, SSGN, and SSN...I have to say this wow. Now I understand maybe an individual boat getting one. But, the entire boomer fleet? Geez. Just completed several missions vital to national security...sure no MUC is coming our way. Then again, boomer guys don't get Navy Expeditionary Medals either. It's sad that you can only get one of those in most cases.

I say it's time we do awards like the Brits. Remember talking to one Royal Navy CAPT about the lone ribbon on his uniform. It was a campaign medal for the Falklands War. His comment hit the spot..."We give out medals in actual time of conflict/war. You Yanks like to decorate your uniforms like it's a Christmas tree."

He has a point. Maybe we should only have those few combat valor awards...and unit citations should be reserved for those times when the whole unit serves in combat.

7/26/2012 1:09 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Received many Fleet Unit Commodations and Joint Operation Badges.

As one who has served on 1 SSBN and 4 SSNs, the missions are remarkedly different. I did 5 patrols on the 1 SSBN. Uneventful waste of my career time. When I first got to the SSBN, the patrols were designated as ORSE patrols or TRE patrols. TRE patrols, we pulled into Hawaii for a weekend. ORSE patrols, San Diego.

Then the port visits stopped. So when we would do personnel transfers, we could go topside in Puget Sound and make cell phone calls. That stopped cause some terrorist could monitor the cell towers and see a big spike inuseage and know it's a SSBN and might..might attack! Even no more swim calls!

So, no port visits, no cell phone liberty and no more swim calls. Morale is low in the SSBN force..lets give them a MUC!

SSNs I did 7 westpacs, and 10+ SPEC-OPs. Got all kinds of awards and commendations. Plus we got cell phone liberty, port visits and swim calls!

One thing nice about the SSBN over the SSN is.....on a SSBN, that nuclear power plant is not the most important thing! The missiles are! First time in a long time I saw someone other than the nukes get all the attention.

P.S. If I had the choice..SSN over SSBN any day of the week.

7/26/2012 1:03 PM

Anonymous 610ET said...


Interesting to hear how things have evolved. I made six Polaris patrols back in the day and there were no port calls, phone liberty, swim calls, etc.

Fly to Rota,meet the boat, turnover, 3-4 week upkeep and 60-70days under water.

Our morale was pretty good!

7/26/2012 8:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

610ET - that was back in the day when you had a serious mission.

The SSBN I was on for 5 patrols, we had less than 30 days of alert time, TOTAL! Seems like most of the tridents were there to give some CDR a command and to poke holes in the water for inspections.

My brother who was on SSBNs was surprised at the lack of alert time. He said they went on alert when they dove and came off alert right before surfacing. He did 12 patrols.


7/27/2012 8:35 PM

Anonymous 610ET said...

Yes, I can see where the times would make a difference.

Good point.

7/27/2012 8:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't you all just take a break and grow up!

7/29/2012 6:14 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You grow up!

7/29/2012 10:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is absolutely no way someone did 5 patrols and only did 30 days alert total. No chance in hell. Just came off a boomer, did three patrols, all well over 30 days alert. Whoever said that is full of shit or has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

7/29/2012 9:01 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Diesel Boat Forever Pin. Broadside view of a guppy boat with a north-atlantic sail with SS on the sail. Two bare breasted mermaids with arms extended facing toward sail. banner underneath boat with six holes for bronze stars. Letters "DBF" in the middle of the banner. Self award for smoke boat sailors who were on a smoke boat that had to do a fill-in specop for broke-down nuc boat. Second award was a bronze star in DBF Pin. My DBF pin sports one bronze star.

Check out Blind Mans Bluff for USS Growler SSG 577 North Pacific Yacht Club SMF! Pin. I saw Growler when she came in from that particular patrol with big holes in her missle compartment superstructure. Smoke boat Regulus patrol cycle was leave Pearl Harbor for 60 days on station. Upkeep Yokosuka for 21 days. Back out on station for 60 days, return to Pearl Harbor. Four diesel boats carried Regulus missiles until arrival of Halibut. No Blue and Gold crew. No NAM's no NCM's, just do your job and no waaa-waaa. Real submarine sailors!! I had a TM buddy who was on the Halibut. They went on Regulus patrol day after Christmas 1961. Pulled into White Beach Okinawa around Easter 1962 at end of patrol. Went back out on patrol after three weeks alongside. 1962 Halibut had six cases of TB onboard. She had highest divorce rate of any Pearl Harbor submarine and the highest re-enlistment rate.

Yep! thats the way it was in those days..............

Keep a zero bubble..........


8/01/2012 10:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Challenge of the day:

Can anyone identify the incident that brackets the start date for the period of the commendation (16 July 2007)? Hint: West Coast boat and PCM may be involved.

8/02/2012 3:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Part I

"Anonymous said...
There is absolutely no way someone did 5 patrols and only did 30 days alert total. No chance in hell."

Please don't speak about things you know nothing of. If I had a guess, I would say he was on Alabama or HMJ. I recall hearing they did several patrols without any alert time as they were the final C4 boats and they couldn't perform the alert mission.

Just because the alert days are divided up the way they are now with only 11 operation SSBNs does not mean it was always that way - remember there used to be 18 OHIOs!

Part II

July 2007 corresponds to a certain incident on Nevada if my memory is correct. Not often you hear of a JO getting his shore duty orders yanked so they navy can kick him out, but it does happen!

8/04/2012 6:12 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


I was just doing random Google searches looking for the citation and I cant believe the tone of most of these responses. I personally think most people on here should be ashamed of themselves, as both submariners and Navy sailors in general.

Ok... so let me get this straight. You are saying that Fastboats deserve their MUCs and boomers dont. Based on what? What is your criteria for who "deserves" the award?...time at sea? operations-related? number of shots fired down range? Did the cooks onboard those fastboats earn the MUCs just as much as the Nukes?...or the FTs?....or the officers? The obvious answer is yes! Everyone onboard earned the award equally. It seems to me most of you think that MUCs are only deserved if you are the ones gtting them, and it also seems that most of the boomer-hatred is borne from jelousy... but that is personal opinion.

I would remind people that we are all volunteers of the same submarine force and as such all get assigned where we are needed, not necessarily where we want to go. We all remember filling out the dream-sheet, and then getting really pissed when we didnt get what we want. Being assigned to a boomer doesnt make you any less a submariner and certainly doesnt mean you should never get an award in your life only because a select few assholes dont think you do anything worthy of recognition.

This is an award given to people who have (in the eyes of Navy leadership) performed well in their mission. Just because you dont think that mission is as "cool" and "awesome" as yours was doesnt mean those who got the award are any less deserving. Lets all try to show a bit more respect for fellow submariners instead of hating on people just because you are bitter...

To all those who have recieved this award... congratulations and keep up the great work!

11/20/2012 6:37 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone said fast boats are more deserving of respect, and have more hazardous duty than boomers. Does that include the possibility of being mugged when you're drunk off your asses on shore leave in foreign ports? I'm curious, because no boomer, including my own, ever pulls in.

Just remember-fast boats aint the reason the cold war never escalated.

9/12/2013 10:01 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So I guess strategic detterence is not important? Would you like for boomers to disappear and have North Korea bomb our country? Didn't think so...Shutup!

10/08/2013 10:15 AM


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