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Monday, July 24, 2006

Retired Skimmer Admiral Misusing Uniform?

CDR Salamander seems to be "stifling the dissent" of a recent DCNO. Joe Sestak, who was "administratively reassigned" as one of the first acts of the new CNO because of "poor command climate" and later retired, is running for Congress. The 'Phib noticed there were a few things not quite kosher about Sestak giving stump speeches in uniform, and brings them to our attention.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing the Navy clearly taught me was that a uniform doesn't always mean the person in it is worthy of respect, regardless of rank. Sure, I have to show respect for the uniform, but I don't have to feel respect for the person. That still has to be earned.

7/24/2006 8:28 AM

Blogger Summer97 said...

Rocco Polidoro, a Republican co-chair of Veterans for Sestak, and the Commander of a local veterans group said, "Obviously, Curt Weldon needs to be educated on the rules and regulations of the military. This comes as no surprise considering that Curt has never worn the uniform of the Unites States military. As a Republican, I can safely say that Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan would be turning in their graves if they knew that Curt Weldon would be using this as another desperate attempt to swift boat a man who served his country for 31 years."

Jerry Gavin, a member of the Vietnam Veterans of America, Chapter 67, Delaware County said, "Former Vice Admiral Sestak, who is a member of the Vietnam Veterans of America, Chapter 67, Delaware County, participated in the Marcus Hook Memorial Day events with other members of the Delaware County Chapter of the Vietnam Veterans of America. He was also asked to be a speaker and to read the names of the Navy service members from Delaware County who were killed in Vietnam. As someone who was myself wounded in Vietnam, it put tears in my eyes to hear Admiral Sestak read the names of those who had given the ultimate sacrifice. For anyone to criticize him for participating in non-political Memorial Day activities is deeply upsetting."

According to the U.S. Navy Uniform Regulations:

U.S. Navy Uniform Regulations, 1401.3.b(2)

(2) Former Members of the Armed Forces. Unless discussed in DOD Directive
1334.1 or Title 10 U.S. Code Sec. 772, former members who served honorably during a war and whose most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions, may wear the uniform of the highest grade held during their service only on the following occasions and during travel related to those occasions.

(a) Military funerals, memorial services, weddings and inaugurals.

7/27/2006 2:50 PM

Blogger Chap said...

Sure seems to me, wheneve I see something mentioned about Sestak in a blog, that there are some awfully defensive people out there patrolling the 'sphere to "Get The Word Out".

The problem is, though, that none of these guys seem to understand the military folks discussing their subject. Not to mention ever having worked for the man....

7/29/2006 2:23 PM

Blogger CDR Salamander said...

Sorry, but I have to travel around links and clean up the FOD these people keep leaving around.

As per 1401.3.b(2), look at (c) and (e) of 772 above. It is discussed.

(c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade.
(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him during that war.

What you quote is what allows him to wear the uniform. What prescribes the rank us 772. The President has not prescribed regulations to allow this, and Congress has not declared war. Therefore....

Anyway, it reaks of poseurism. Everyone in uniform know it.

There is also the fact that he is running for office - and he made a public speech - in a uniform. That requires careful thought.

And summer97 - funny, you have created your blogger profile just to post that...mmmmmm

8/08/2006 12:24 PM


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