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Wednesday, August 11, 2010

FY11 Chief Results Out

From Goatlocker, here's what is purported to be NAVADMIN 269/10, the FY11 Active-Duty Navy E7 Selection Board Results. I'll post a link to the "official" message when it's released.

Congratulations to all the new Chief selectees, especially those who wear dolphins. May your ass not get sore when you have to move all the olives into martini glasses not using your hands, feet, or mouth. (Actually, they don't do that anymore, but I'm sure you'll still have a memorable next few weeks.)

Update 1458 11 Aug: Here's a link to the "official" version of the message.

Update 1643 11 Aug: Speaking of NAVADMINs, here's NAVADMIN 268/10 that came out yesterday; it institutes a new requirement for all Sailors assigned to warfare-qualifying commands to earn the applicable warfare designation with 30 months, or face the consequences. It won't make any difference to people assigned to submarines, but it seems to make it a requirement for any Submariner assigned to a tender for over 30 months to earn water wings. I don't think there's any requirement that they have to continue to wear them after they leave the skimmer, however, so I guess it won't be that bad.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

My old CO had a philosophy regarding guys who just got "selected" for a higher rank.

You know what you call a Captain Select?


To all of you First Class Petty Officers who were just selected Chief, congratulations!

8/11/2010 1:03 PM

Blogger FT2(ss) said...

Congratulations to all you soon to be Chiefs, especially those of the Fire Control Tech type. Seeing a few names brought back some great memories.

One in particular was out in Seattle when a soon to be Chief tried to step up onto a rock while wearing his fishing waders. The lack of traction made for a rather humorous demonstration of gravity. AS this is happening the other sailor whose name will not be mentioned comes falling down a small waterfall after he attempted to climb it.

8/11/2010 2:31 PM

Blogger MT1(SS)WidgetHead said...

2.5 years to qualify out of A school?...and how many more secondary quals can they go for as well in that time? I'd say that's a fairly generous time frame the MCPON has selected for skimmers.

We have 46 new MTCs this year, that's outstanding Gents! Congrats to all who made it. Since I know about half of the names on the list, that gives me considerable hope when I submit my package within the next 2-3 years. BZ Guys!!!

8/11/2010 5:25 PM

Blogger Old Salt said...

After many years on Subs hearing about the skimmer fleet, I let the detailer talk me into a tour on the Frank Cable. We were ahead of most in requiring E-5 and better to qualify. E-4 and below who qualified could get a blue liberty card that allowed them to be out past 0000. Good incentive there. On the other hand, not forcing people to do the qual helped to break out the pack at rankings.

8/11/2010 9:41 PM

Anonymous 3383 said...

Dolphins and wings mean something, but in the late 80's the pewter Surface Warfare insignia was one small step above bullshit.

8/12/2010 12:26 AM

Blogger ETCS(SS/SW) said...

Congratulations to all the new chiefs. I still remember the very moment I was notified by my shipmates that I had made the list. It's a very memorable time.

On the SW qual, I'm with 3383. I got mine when I was on AS-32 in 1987-88. Qualification was a requirement per CO's standing orders. What a joke. Also, how on earth can a valid surface warfare qualification occur on a submarine tender? A few days a month out at sea while chained to the coastline? Four 20mm guns for weapons. Hell, the only group close to worthy of warfare qualification onboard was the Marine attachment.

8/12/2010 4:47 AM

Anonymous NHSparky said...

41 ET Nuke submariner CPO's this year? Holy crap--that's more than in the three years COMBINED I was in front of the board (20, 12, 8 respectively in 1996, 97, and 98.) Couple that with my being in the early select group all 3 years, and it's pretty obvious why I didn't put on khaki before I got out.

But congratulations to all the new CPO's.

8/15/2010 8:20 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retention is a bitch these days. As a nuke ET sub, you are practically guaranteed advancement on the 2nd and 1st class exams as soon as you get to the fleet. The MMs aren't much further behind, and for EMs, good luck making 2nd until your 4 or 5 year point, but as soon as you are up for 1st, you have pretty good odds. Unfortunately this means a lot more really young chiefs, which I don't think is a good idea, some special cases aside. How can you know how to be a chief if you barely spent time as a 1st? Anywho, congrats to the chief selectees, I see a couple familiar names on there.

8/15/2010 4:20 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just as well not make the chief mark.... For in the real world you"ll just have make your own way and not be advanced via lottery and some dudes circle jerk... But some insist on being lathered with baby batter... to those I say Enjoy....

8/15/2010 6:56 PM

Blogger MT1(SS)WidgetHead said...

"How can you know how to be a chief if you barely spent time as a 1st?"

That's a considerable thought which keeps a few of us from submitting a package too fast. More than once, I've sat down to hear a mentor (who's been there done that) to tell us that sometimes you just need to slow the hell down. From retired guys who've served in Vietnam all the way to today's clusterfuck operations throughout the middle east and other vacation spots...they've told us to slow down and stop, listen & learn.

Getting promoted early is great.
Now, what alot of us are being told is that it's best to have atleast two sea tours completed before making a shot for the khaki pants.

Operational experience while underway is the most important concept here in order to lead effectively.

If you want to be trusted...and you want your Junior enlisted to believe in you, then you need a considerable amount of experience to rely on and relate to in order to mentor and take care of the children who've been placed under your present guidance. Besides, trust work both ways...which means your crew can either make you or break you.

Next up is education. If you're gonna stay in, you'll need to think about college. Most of us take our courses during a shore tour at a weapons station or while assigned to a senior officer's staff. Depending on your rate and your present job, you'll generally want to go after a degree which best fits your future. Shoot at a bachelors if you's as big a help as completing a tour as an RDC or teaching C school.

I've also been told that we don't have to have a Bachelors completed before we stand our first firing squad...oops, I mean Chief's board. But get the fucker close to completion as you possibly can. Plus, the board is going to ask why you've chosen said major and how it actively correlates to life as you know it. If you've not yet completed your degree (like me) then the board will want a course projection as to how and when you intend to graduate. The last thought on college is the (weapons party) promotion board will be understanding when they see you as a hardworking sailor who's doing his best to get through. They know that most of us only take about 9 hours per semester after securing a 12 hour day damn near every day. They also understand breaks in class due to being deployed in a quick fashion. May not look good in CIVLANT, but it works for us. A deployment easily explains an incomplete. Most schools are happy to work with you once you return.

Get hot & qualed in all areas while on the boat. Get as many NEC's as you possibly can within your rate while on shore.

How in the hell do we get all this shit done?...That's called time management. Just like the vast majority who frequent this blog, my only priorities at the end of day is beer, BBQ chicken wings, scallops, steak and pussy. But sometime you just have to go back and sit down and crack the books in order to actively proceed full ahead in life. That's pretty much what I've been experiencing. In other words, YOU have to write your own schedule and then make it happen effectively and consistently.

Last thing is to be sure you maintain a proper uniform appearance at all times. That means start NOW!!

From Balao-class to Ohio and Virgina-class, those are the guys (active and retired)who are happy to explain to us youngins how life works once some of us will be wearing khaki pants eventually.

8/16/2010 1:35 AM

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