Screen(ing) Door On A Submarine, FY12 Style
It's that time of year again for Submarine officers -- time to check out the list of who screened for CO/XO/DH for FY12 and wonder how the puppy molester/dirtbag/jerk you don't like screened and who he sucked up to in order to do so. Back in my day, they never released the list -- even within the community -- due to the complaints it generated. Apparently the new generation of Submarine officers is better behaved.
Here's the list for those of you with Facebook access; it appears that this is a Facebook exclusive for now, as the ALSUBFOR message won't be released until Tuesday. I'll post that link later from the PERS-42 site for those of you who are Facebook-deprived. I note that this year several of the guys I taught at NPTU are screening for XO -- just another indication of how old I am.
Here's last year's thread for those who want to see how this discussion might develop. Congratulations to all those selected!
Update 2015 01 June: Here's a link to the PERS-42 page with links to all the selection messages.
posted by Bubblehead at 11:41 AM
25 Comments:
Congrats to John E. Cage on command! Best XO I ever served with!
5/28/2011 12:19 PM
Congrats all!
I know a majority of the CO selectee list, but recognize none of the XO list.
5/28/2011 1:05 PM
I would love to see a breakdown on the DH jobs for the selectees....maybe even the difference in selection rate for the priors
5/28/2011 1:56 PM
I'm so old that even my Major Command JOs are in command or post-command. Sad when you can't look forward to recognizing any names - though I still can see a few on the Major Command list.
5/28/2011 3:11 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0528/Blue-Angels-flight-leader-relieved-of-command-for-flying-too-low
5/28/2011 4:22 PM
I, for the life of me, can't figure out the screening process. I see names I can't believe are on there and I don't see names that I can't believe AREN'T on there...one of life's great mysteries. At least I see a couple of names that should have been on there last time. /endrant
Congratulations to everyone who made the cut!
5/28/2011 5:38 PM
where do submarine cos, submarine support serve? nssc?
5/28/2011 5:39 PM
I have officially reached old retired status now because the last Chief's list had only one of the guys I served with them on it and that was because he was a junior third when we served together.
This current list has no one that I can remember serving with either due to age or time. I have have officially lost my connection to the active fleet and now I am just another old glory sailor. Remembering how things used to be and how it was so much better than.
It is hard to believe it can happen so damn fast. MentalJim your time is coming too. It will only take some where around five years before you too will join the ranks of the crusty old sailors of yesteryear.
It sucks to get old. I still would love to have another shot at a surfaced mid-watch with a cigar and the stars. Never again and so it has to be because submarining is a young man's game.
5/29/2011 6:32 AM
"where do submarine cos, submarine support serve? nssc?"
The no kidding 'back-up' CO's serve as squadron deputies and all go through the command course the same time as their peers.
The rest serve in all kinds of O-5 billets, both within the submarine community and outside it. (for a while a whole bunch of the recruiting district CO's were submarine COSS's). The main thing with COSS (and with XOSS) is that it keeps up your nuc pay eligibility - in contrast with not screening which makes it go away by the start of the fiscal year.
(nearly all served XO's these days are either CO or COSS though, screening rates for the combo are 90+ and in some cases 100%)
5/29/2011 10:18 AM
The XO results are definitely skewed against 0006; I don't think anyone is surprised.
/Oh-six, oh-sucks!
-LT L
5/29/2011 3:29 PM
Congrats to all!
@anon 1:56, no one shows those pie charts any more.
5/29/2011 4:13 PM
I see a couple of old "Deuce Deuce" shipmates made it. Congrats Matt, Brad, Jeff, and Steve.
5/29/2011 6:04 PM
Screen This!
5/29/2011 9:53 PM
Re: Screen This!
Great! Another "old salt" feels compelled to hijack the topic with something unrelated.
5/30/2011 6:37 AM
Great! Another "old salt" feels compelled to hijack the topic with something unrelated.
Actually it is related, as in how will the newly screened DHs, XOs, and COs deal with the very real issues pointed out. But you're too naive (and probably a pole smoker as well) to even discern the issues about to be imposed upon you.
5/30/2011 8:10 AM
Stay classy.
5/30/2011 10:35 AM
The link to last years results does not work for some reason.
5/30/2011 11:49 AM
It seemed to work fine when I checked it. If it doesn't work for you, it's near the bottom of the June 2010 archives on the right.
5/30/2011 4:30 PM
Would love to see the diversity breakdown of the selectees. he two I recognize are minorities, and I wouldn't have recommended either for CO.
5/31/2011 10:09 AM
The link to last years thread works. Once there, the link to the message does not. Same with trying from the archieve.
5/31/2011 11:13 AM
@LT L,
What is this 0006 that you are talking about?
6/01/2011 1:21 PM
Mr. Craddock was a swell guy when I knew him as a JO. I'm sure he'll do fine!
6/01/2011 1:26 PM
Congrats to those that made it.. I was the "victim" of a CO-SS that got a boat last minute and waged war on his wardroom. You know, the surprise "Not XO recommended" transfer EVAL.. Prior, retired after 23 years because of his games. I you knew me, you'd know I'd have been a great XO. Loved my guys and took care of them. This process is wrong. XO Recommended from my JO tour through 2 Shore duties (SE Prototype and Grad School) as well as succcessful deployments etc.. One grudging CO fixed that right.. Anyway, Submarine Navy best part of my life and love the memories..
6/11/2011 8:27 AM
At Dave - Say it ain't so; prior enlisted blackballed in the CO/XO screening process. Your story hits home because of my own prior service experience and several seniors telling me that I need to care more about the mission than the men. Just like any screening process there will be imperfections resulting in people screening/not-screening who do/don't deserve it. Who the hell are we to judge. Congrats to those on the list. People like you and I would probably be better suited commanding diesel boats during a world war instead of a nuclear powered ship in peacetime. So until that happens, we will just have to go on commanding submarines on our computer! Here is a link to purchase... P.S. The newest version has an XO scenario that keeps you busy preparing for a multitude of mock inspections during the day inbetween the action on the midwatch. Count your blessings, get some rest, and enjoy retirement.
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