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Tuesday, January 29, 2008

Submarine News And Notes

A quick run through submarine tidbits making news today:

1) USS Connecticut (SSN 22) arrives in her new homeport of Bangor today, meaning all three Seawolf-class subs will now be based in the Puget Sound. Given the known superiority of Seawolf-class boats, this means the Bangor area now indisputably has the world's most powerful submarine fleet when you count the 2 SSGNs, their 8 SSGNs SSBNs, and whichever two Seawolfs can get underway while the 3rd one is used as a spare parts depot for the other two.

2) We don't talk about countermeasure systems very much, for very good reason, which can leave military reporters unsure about how to describe them when they do make the news. This results in them being called part of a "counterattack" system in this article about a man stealing what seem to be domes from a CSA MkII system on USS Hampton (SSN 767).

3) I really don't see Brazil successfully building an SSN within the next 20 years, despite what this article says.

4) This article about the Navy resuming sonar training off SoCal is amusing because it has quotes from skimmer-types about ASW, including this one:

At 2 a.m. Sunday, the target submarine -- a U.S. sub playing the role of the enemy -- surfaced near the carrier and radioed to announce its location. In these games, it was a taunt that prompted a round of urgent, middle-of-the-night phone calls.
"It's very embarrassing that the submarine got in on us," said one Navy captain. "But it shows how a submarine can hide among pinnacles and seamounts, and we'll have to learn from it."
Looks to me like at least one Navy captain has been watching too much "Hunt For Red October" and thinks submarines really do dart in and out among the forest of "pinnacles" that is the SoCal local ops area...

Edited 2024 29 Jan to correct a typo.

Update 0717 30 Jan 2008: The news about submarines just keeps on coming! USS Miami (SSN 755) returned from deployment, the delivery of PCU North Carolina (SSN 777) has been delayed until February because of a problem with a steam valve, and USS Connecticut arrived as planned yesterday, as this photo attests:

Update 0015 31 Jan 2008: Here's another picture of Connecticut's arrival.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pinnacle darting makes me nervous.


1/29/2008 3:27 PM

Blogger RM1(SS) (ret) said...

"It's very embarrassing that the submarine got in on us," said one Navy captain. "But it shows how a submarine can hide among pinnacles and seamounts, and we'll have to learn from it."

Well, if the skimmers really want to learn how to hide amongst the pinnacles and seamounts, I'm sure we can teach them. Or at least help them get there....

1/29/2008 3:36 PM

Blogger Brandie said...

I thought there were only 4 SSGN's total, so wouldn't that be 8 SSBN's? I know of two GN's in Bangor, and the other two are in KB.

1/29/2008 3:53 PM

Blogger Bubblehead said...

Brandie -- Yes, of course you're correct, the 2nd "SSGNs" was a typo that should have been "SSBNs". It's corrected now.

1/29/2008 8:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dontcha know that was what we were training for on the San Fran when we hit that seamount, like duh'uh! We just didn't time the turn quick enuf, LOL......
As for SSGN's, I heard there is a new missle treaty in the works and big navy is planning on 4 more SSGNs added to the fleet.
Anybody else heard this rumore?

1/29/2008 10:42 PM

Anonymous Guinness said...

I think the Captain's quote is perfect, even if it is embarrassing to the surface community. It very effectively illustrates their lack of understanding of ASW, submarine tactics, and underwater acoustics.

1/30/2008 3:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did a UNITAS in 1988 on a Spruance Class DD. We had an SSN accompany our group for ASW exercise with various S. American Navies. I arranged for 2 of my TMs and a couple of STGs to ride to sub between ports and see how it is done from down below. It was invaluable training for the STGs.

That is where it needs to start if the surface Navy really wants to get better at ASW.

Chief Torpedorman

1/30/2008 4:02 PM

Anonymous anon e. moose said...

Unrelated, but I read that the next three boats are: California, Missouri, and Mississippi. (Not sure about the order.)

1/30/2008 7:59 PM

Anonymous Boomer Homo said...

I don't think his comment really shows a misunderstanding necessarily, unless you take his comment extremely literally... Ever read the TUOE manual?

2/02/2008 12:43 PM

Blogger Chap said...

indisputably has the world's most powerful submarine fleet
indisputably has the world's most expensive Jimmy Carter repair depot

There. Fixed that for ya.

2/02/2008 10:32 PM

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