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Wednesday, November 09, 2005

"Dogs and Sailors Keep Off The Grass"

My favorite urban legends debunking site, Snopes, has looked into the old story that in Norfolk, among other places, people used to put up signs in their yards saying "Dogs and Sailors Keep Off The Grass". Turns out that there isn't any real evidence that this was a common occurence:

"The "Sailors and dogs: Keep off the grass" chestnut enjoys the acceptance it does because it communicates via one succinct and cold-hearted phrase how many in the military perceive themselves to be treated by the locals. As an expression of something deeply felt yet difficult to put into words, the text of the non-existent signs gets across that sense of barely being tolerated. In this regard, it is far less important that the signs never existed in the U.S. because the feeling being communicated by them certainly does."

Check out all the Snopes Military Urban Legends for some good reading...

Going deep...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's wrong with dogs?


11/09/2005 8:39 AM

Blogger Harry said...

Snopes is a pretty good test, but not guaranteed to be accurate. Some years ago, a customer sent me a photo of a "Sailors and Dogs" sign. The sign was obviously metal, with raised letters, some rust here and there, and a bit beat up. But if it was a hoax, someone went to a heckuva lot of trouble to put it forth. So I had replicas made, which have the text of that photo on the face. You can find them at

10/07/2010 3:52 PM

Anonymous Walt said...

the signs were there in early 60's as witnessed by thousands of sailors on liberty in Norfolk. Military people were treated like trash back then. We fought in Vietnam & Korea,we stood by to fight with Cuba & Russia civilians did'nt like us much

12/30/2013 10:46 PM


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